IM BAFFED 1.2 nova rought running

[turbojolt]

:confused: :confused: :confused: :confused:

if i make a video of how the car is running would you be able to tell whats wrong with it i think it is miss firing as the exhaust is puffing away in a very strange manner



i put a screw driver in the ht lead and they are all getting power ( good strong spark) i cant bloody check the plugs right now as i have lost my spark plug spanner


also its got a new air filter oil oil filter and so on so i dont think it just needs a good service

[Copers]

try the plug gaps when you can get them out mate

[Dod]

Ok, if its getting decent feed for the Spark, then I cant be that unless its the timing.

When you say the exhaust is puffing irregluarly, how do you mean? Is it firing on 2 or 3 cylanders?

[turbojolt]

its hard for me to explain it but it like puff -miss-puff-miss i know that sounds stupid but i cant explain it any other way lol

[turbojolt]

also the strange thing is it dose not apear to runn any diffrent when any of the ht lead are out

[General Baxter]

replace the ignition system

rotor arm, cap, leads, plugs, about £15 from halfords :)

[turbojolt]

replace the ignition system

rotor arm, cap, leads, plugs, about £15 from halfords :)


i will have to go beg for money from my rich plummer brother again then cheers for the help guys i will let you know if it works :thumb:



1 last thing how to i check the timing do i need one of those strobe lights

[turbojolt]

right after sending good knows how many volts thru my body lol i found all the plugs to be in good working order making a very healthy spark and being new so i dont really want to go out and buy new ignition components



could it just be the timing :confused:


looking at the spark plus and a old escort Haynes manuel i have carbon fouling occurring as my spark plugs are sooty and black

[turbojolt]

is the mixture adjusting screw the white one on the left hand side of the carb

[turbojolt]

there was sand in the dizzy cap so i cleaned that out and roughed up all the connection point but still running rough

[General Baxter]

sand ??? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? wtf ? ? ? ? ?? ? ? ?

[turbojolt]

i know aint got a clue how it got in there but it was lol


also i clean up the spark plugs

[turbojolt]

replace the ignition system

rotor arm, cap, leads, plugs, about £15 from halfords :)


i have just been out and brought a new rotor arm and dizzy cap cost £15 hopefull that will help it out as the point in the cap were slightly worn and sandy lol

[Fridge]

Have you moved the dizzy? Something is more likely to have warn out than 'slipped' which is why baxters idea might be best.
Also, you may be getting spark, but it might not be strong enough - even though it's still enough to give you a jolt.

Edit: what did the plugs look like? Compare them to a guide in a haynes manual, or google some images.

[turbojolt]

Have you moved the dizzy? Something is more likely to have warn out than 'slipped' which is why baxters idea might be best.
Also, you may be getting spark, but it might not be strong enough - even though it's still enough to give you a jolt.

Edit: what did the plugs look like? Compare them to a guide in a Haynes manual, or google some images.


yer i done that and they were a powered black Haynes said carbon fouling i think i need to adjust the fuel mixture but i dont know what screw i need to adjust

the plugs looked like this click (http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploads10/IMG_64201183814709.jpg)

also i removed the dizzy and cleaned it up


also the spark is a good one mate very healthy


but like i said i have brought a new dizzy cap and rotor arm

[General Baxter]

i have just been out and brought a new rotor arm and dizzy cap cost £15 hopefull that will help it out as the point in the cap were slightly worn and sandy lol

dont you people have halfords magic cards lol

[turbojolt]

dont you people have halfords magic cards lol


i didn't go to halfrauds i went to a little motor parts place i know

[Lee]

rotor arm, cap, leads, plugs, about £15 from halfords :)

Buy me that lot for £15 and Ill eat my own poo!!!

[turbojolt]

i know the dizzy cap i got cost 11 quid and the rotor arm cost 5 then i got wd40 and carb cleaner for another 9 quid

[General Baxter]

Buy me that lot for £15 and Ill eat my own poo!!!


you best get ready, when i had to do it for my 1.poo, it come to just over £15 :thumb:

iirc
plugs £4.99
cap £2.50,
arm, 99p
leads were about £7.50

some where around that lol

[Lee]

leads for 7.50? WTF??? lol

[General Baxter]

ill kept the receipt next time i go, ill be servicing my Xe in the new year :p

bet I'm looking £25-£30 with oil change and filters lol

my lovely 256x20 disk, £6.87 each, i can remember that lol

[turbojolt]

i cant get the dizzy cap untill monday so i will let you know when i have fitted it



also hopefully the carb cleaner will do the job dose anyone know how to get the jets out of the carb is it a easy job

[Stuart]

ill kept the receipt next time i go, ill be servicing my Xe in the new year :p

bet I'm looking £25-£30 with oil change and filters lol

my lovely 256x20 disk, £6.87 each, i can remember that lol


its properly ghay that they dont do the 288*25mm discs :(

[meritlover]

dont go adjusting carb screws until you know everything else is ok. is the choke working properly? ie not jamming. and is the float jammed (flooding the engine) both of these things will cause carbon deposits and black plugs.

sounds like either the leads are on the wrong way (firing order) or the timing is out.
if you had a strobe light you could both check the timing AND test each plug to make sure its flashing when it should fire.

without hearing it its difficult

[turbojolt]

i dont think the leads are on the wrong way as it was running spot on before


how do i check if the float chamber is jammed

[Stuart]

have you got a nova haynes manual? if not, then GET ONE

[turbojolt]

i haven't as my local halfrauds did not have any in stock


so going and buying one is of no use to me now as i will not be able to get one till next week and i really need this sorted as soon as possible

[Dod]

Ok, its a long shot, but have you tried gently massaging the head and cam carrier with some Strawberry scented Lubracant?

[meritlover]

so what exactly do you need to know?

[turbojolt]

Ok, its a long shot, but have you tried gently massaging the head and cam carrier with some Strawberry scented Lubracant?


WTF

[turbojolt]

so what exactly do you need to know?


how to check if the float chamber is jammed :thumb:

[Stuart]

floats on the 1.2 engines dont tend to jam.


Its either piss poor ign timing, iffy mixture settings or an air leak given that you claim everything else is sorted.
Is the air filter clean?

[meritlover]

you really need to remove the top of the carb. check there is no cr8p in the bowl and that the needle is seating.

or you can remove the carb and drain it. then blow through the fuel inlet and block the return line with your finger. you should be able to blow in it easily until you turn it upside down at which point the float should fall and close the needle blocking the air flow.

i think you need to start with the basics first, such as timing and ignition before you play around too much. or you will end up chasing your tail.

[turbojolt]

right the airfilter is less then 100 miles old

[Stuart]

right the airfilter is less then 100 miles old


means NOTHING!!!!!
could be clean, or could be full of crap.

[Dod]

WTF

So thats a no?

[John]

BAFFED, word of the day lol.

[turbojolt]

means NOTHING!!!!!
could be clean, or could be full of crap.


sorry ment to edit that but was doing something it is very clean mate



baffed is a good word mate as there is no other way to describe my self right now lol


also one thing i would like to know is how to take out the main jet to clean it up cheers guys