View Full Version : My crossmember has just cracked
So pissed off i would expect it with a c20xe but not a x16xe :mad:. So have to fit a new one and think im going to seam weld it at the same time now! If i ever get my welder back that is :roll:
dj_wudgey
12-12-08, 01:09 PM
no way dude well at least your going to fix it!!!
Thats fakk all.Bit of a ballache to get off but if you can weld its not a worry
Yea have to fix it, but i lent my welder out about a month ago and he wont bring it back. so god knows when it will be fixed
Thats fakk all.Bit of a ballache to get off but if you can weld its not a worry
Yea ive heard this about them. but its ment to be easy to fit it back well i hope so lol
Took me 4 hours to get mine off,then about 30mins to weld the new one on lol.Takes a while to line up though.
ah so its only a days job then, ideal
If you have the time,do it over 2.You wil be that stressed and cut to buggery that its best to leave it till next day.
well i work 1 day a week so i got the time lol
You will know why i suggested 2 days soon enough lol
oh right well im in for some fun then haha
brainsnova
12-12-08, 01:39 PM
mine cracked and i only had a 1.3 sr makes driving at 70mph interesting.
dont tell me you was still driving at that speed, or thats the speed it cracked?
brainsnova
12-12-08, 01:46 PM
i drove 60 miles down the M8 and thought this doesnt feel right looked seen it was buggered and drove home. happy days but not advised.
Na i didnt go over 40mph. that was to much to handle was all over the place. so god knows what you had t odeal with at that speed
brainsnova
12-12-08, 01:57 PM
just slow acceleration, gentle steering and no braking.
Pistol Pete
12-12-08, 02:07 PM
Spot weld drills at the ready! And an angle grinder. I had mine off in a few hours and my mate welded the new one on in half an hour or so. Used a ratchet strap and a brace between the engine/gearbox mounts just to keep everything in place.
yea i will weld a bar going across
Big_Chap
12-12-08, 03:53 PM
Took me 4 hours to get mine off,then about 30mins to weld the new one on lol.Takes a while to line up though.
4 hours? What did you use, a hacksaw? Lol! I had mine off in no time, infact I ripped the front panel off with my hands (with gloves) it was soo fooked! I've got loads of pics of mine if you need any help, it is pretty straight forward though. Weld around the extra plates that are only spot welded on around the tie bar brackets fixing points and also the cross member to front panel join as again these are only spotwelded on! I also got the Harry Hockley plates and got them welded on.
craig green
12-12-08, 04:59 PM
Pics of your breakage BIGS?
4 hours? What did you use, a hacksaw? Lol! I had mine off in no time, infact I ripped the front panel off with my hands (with gloves) it was soo fooked! I've got loads of pics of mine if you need any help, it is pretty straight forward though. Weld around the extra plates that are only spot welded on around the tie bar brackets fixing points and also the cross member to front panel join as again these are only spotwelded on! I also got the Harry Hockley plates and got them welded on.
Of course,there was always going to be someone who did it faster:roll:,well done:thumb:
Is it easy enought to weld a new one on if the engine is still in? and do you really have to brace it beforehand?
My engine was in,i never braced it.No problems at all.
brainsnova
12-12-08, 05:39 PM
you only need to lift the front wheels up for unbloting the tie and anti roll bar fixings bars brackets.
Dont even need to do that.Unbolt them as they are then push them down
My engine was in,i never braced it.No problems at all.
Awsomesauce thats just the answer I wanted mate, i can get stuck into that at xmas!
Whereabouts has it cracked?
What condition is the shell in?
Its cracked on the pass side just right of where the antiroll bars bolt to. ill get pics tomorrow. but the shell is in great condtion. the front was getting abit rusty but was still solid. Well atleast ive got a panel here ready to use any how
http://i241.photobucket.com/albums/ff314/b17ova/the%20saloon/newnova093-2.jpg
If you see that rust hole on the left its cracked from there right down and underneith
Big_Chap
14-12-08, 04:45 PM
here is mine, if you look closely you'll see the stitches and also the plates i was talking about.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v82/Big_Chap/Crossmember/DSC00151.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v82/Big_Chap/Crossmember/DSC00132.jpg
i also got it blasted and powder-coated to ensure the inside was all clean and sealed
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v82/Big_Chap/Crossmember/DSC00137.jpg
Pistol Pete
14-12-08, 04:49 PM
Looks good. Be a shame to grind it all back for welding!
http://i241.photobucket.com/albums/ff314/b17ova/the%20saloon/newnova093-2.jpg
If you see that rust hole on the left its cracked from there right down and underneith
You mean the rusty hole on the right then? lol
Well pass side = left side lol
brainsnova
14-12-08, 04:57 PM
n/s lol near/side
I know whats ya mean mate i can see your logic there i just couldnt resist.
I had my tie bar mount rip itself out of the cross member on one of my old novas, she was terminally rotten bless her i drove it to a mates garage to strip the old girl and had over a quarter of a turn on the steering wheel just to hold a straight line!
Ah noway well im lucky mine isnt that bad. i would of taken pics but its far to cold outside for me. but wish i seen it before i paid to have the tracking done lol
brainsnova
14-12-08, 05:06 PM
just take it back and say the steering doesnt feel right.
To which they will stick it on a ramp have a look under it and say "thats cos your rotbox car is falling to bits" and chances are depending where he got it done they will refuse to give the car back to him as its in a dangerous condition, so not a particularly good idea tbh lol
I have three times untill i relised why it wasnt right lol
brainsnova
14-12-08, 05:15 PM
years ago i got my sr tracking done and on the way home my car went belting past at high speed i went back and said wtf you doing they said testing the tracking and i went mad and got it for free.
Big_Chap
14-12-08, 05:16 PM
Looks good. Be a shame to grind it all back for welding!
Didn't grind it all back, only an inch around the weld areas, the important bit was inside the boxed section and where the two pressed sheets are spot welded to form the actual crossmember, that's where the rot will set in and in time be the point of failure
years ago i got my sr tracking done and on the way home my car went belting past at high speed i went back and said wtf you doing they said testing the tracking and i went mad and got it for free.
Just out of interest why did you leave your car there and go home if it were just to have the tracking done?
It only takes minutes to do and does not involve a road test at all, ive had four wheel alignment done on a few of my cars and have usually been in and out in around thirty minutes!
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