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Right my nova has a battery in it but its kind boggered i think. its enough to get lights and stuff on but only just. Tryed to start the car and all you can hear is the starter motor spinning.
Is the starter motor broken ??
I three things that can be wrong are:
Dead battery
Starter motor broken
Engine seized
Can i check if its seized ?? and if so how ??
Thanks
Cle
put it in gear and push it. if the engine goes round then its not seized
napalm_27
07-12-08, 07:13 PM
socket on the bottom pulley and try and turn it over or put the car in gear and try and bump it
Burgo: When the car was coming of the trailor it was accidently knocked into gear and moved back then bumped.
napalm_27: I done this earlier and it moved ok
So this means its not Seized ??
Sorry for questions just not the best mechanic lol still learning :D
brainsnova
07-12-08, 07:23 PM
put a volt meter over the battery and see how many volts are there.
napalm_27
07-12-08, 07:24 PM
its fine then mate get it a new battery or charge the old one up
put a volt meter over the battery and see how many volts are there.
12v but 0A
So its another battery i need
napalm_27
07-12-08, 07:30 PM
need 14-15 volts mate to start a car wierd i no but thats how it works lol
ad yer or you could give it a charge see what happens
General Baxter
07-12-08, 07:32 PM
12v but 0A
So its another battery i need
you do know how to check amps lol
need 14-15 volts mate to start a car wierd i no but thats how it works lol
ad yer or you could give it a charge see what happens
Tryed charging it but it doesent charge so new battery then
you do know how to check amps lol
:tumble:
Iirc, nova batterys are an 063/863/400 battery, and have 390 amps?
Dont for get if you let a battrey go flat repetedly they die inside.
I bet with a new battrey it will trun over.
well the battery's dead. so ill find another one it was my dad who check the power and that on it and i think he said it had 12v and 0A but i could have heard wrong
Dont for get if you let a battrey go flat repetedly they die inside.
I bet with a new battrey it will trun over.
I want it to start lol
with a new/good battreey and fuel it will.
with a new/good battreey and fuel it will.
:D:D:D:D:D :wisewood:
Thats what i like to hear lol
need 14-15 volts mate to start a car wierd i no but thats how it works lol
ad yer or you could give it a charge see what happensif thats the case then we're all ****ed as the only time there is that many volts in when the car is running
all you can hear is the starter motor spinning.
DO smallblock starters use solenoids??
DO smallblock starters use solenoids??
Not a clue havent looked at it yet. To be honest i dunno where bouts it is lol
DO smallblock starters use solenoids??
Think all starters do.
Sounds like the solenoid to me then lol
I know there are some starters out there that are contantly connected to the fly, I didnt know if the smalblock was similar to those.
Are there? Didnt think the starter would take the speed the fly spins at..
So a battery and a new starter motor.
Thanks to all that have helped so far :D
Are there? Didnt think the starter would take the speed the fly spins at..
The gear does, i think the shaft is connected by a solenoid, so Im talking bollox again lol
So a battery and a new starter motor.
Thanks to all that have helped so far :Djust lob a new bettery on and then try wacking the solanoid as it just might be sticky from sitting
What happens when you turn the key? The starter just clicks? Or it sounds like its spinning but not turning the engine?
What happens when you turn the key? The starter just clicks? Or it sounds like its spinning but not turning the engine?
sounds like its spinning but not starting the car.
The gear does, i think the shaft is connected by a solenoid, so Im talking bollox again lol
Got me confussed...lol
Got me confussed...lol
LOL, me too. Im very tired so I typed before i thought it through.
I DIDN'T THINK IT THROUGH :D
jimbob-mcgrew
08-12-08, 01:49 AM
sounds like the batteries ok to me. DC current has bugger all amps really, and u wont see it hit 13 or 14 volts untill the engines fired up and running when the alternator has a chance to do its thing.
when u crank it over do you get a fast whizzing noise from just the starter ? or does it actually crank the engine over and not fire up ?
if its not cranking, the starter might not be engaging on the flywheel enough or have stripped teeth on the gear.
u got an 8 valve ?
breaking my nova if you want the starter for a fiver plus post.
~~joycey~~
08-12-08, 05:15 AM
Hit it! :D
if the solanoid isnt working then it wont throw the gear out to engage with the flywheel. therefore the motor will just spin as you have said. therefore give the solanoid a few ****s with a bar whilst trying to start it.
dont you love it so many giving there opinion when they havnt got a clue
So many different things to try :confused: lol
I'm getting a brand new battery on saturday, so i'll put it in and try it again.
Should i buy another starter just incase ??
dont bother with another starter yet, if it starts and you struggle to start it again then it might be worth a new one, or just buy used, mucho cheaper lol
craig green
08-12-08, 11:50 AM
Don't waste any more on a starter if you havent found the real prob yet.
Lets hope its the battery. It likely is as cold weather will finish off an ageing battery.
Ill give the starter a whack then try and start it with the new battery.
If it starts there will be a video in my project thread :D
paddy138
08-12-08, 12:03 PM
your solenoid is ****ed, piece a piss to change a starter, just get the starter reconditioned
your solenoid is ****ed, piece a piss to change a starter, just get the starter reconditioned
Other people are saying theres no point in getting one now ??
craig green
08-12-08, 12:10 PM
See if a new battery fixes it. Jeez!
jimbob-mcgrew
08-12-08, 01:51 PM
sounds ok to me - noth worth spending £35 on a new one till the starters been checked out.
could try the oldskool method of sticking it in 5th and rocking the car back and forth, sometimes when youve got a sticky starter the back and forth rocking of the car spins the flywheel on the starter and free's it up, usually only a temp fix tho, problems seem to come back within a day or 2.
Cle ffs. ignore these 5 pages of bollocks!! fit your new battery and try it. if you can hear the starter just spining then give the solanoid a wack. if this doesnt make it change the dont go and buy a new one buy a known working second hand one.
craig green
08-12-08, 02:31 PM
/\ Agree.
The chances are the frost has finished the battery off.
put it in gear crank it over if the car moves the starter is ok
wich i suspect it will be
then try either jump leads or bumpimg it off
wow - people dont listen or read the pages and pages of stuff on this thread:roll:
jimbob-mcgrew
09-12-08, 12:45 AM
lol brilliant
cle must be like "what the hell ?!"
~~joycey~~
09-12-08, 02:27 AM
Agreed, try your new battery and give starter a wack! End of lol
meritlover
09-12-08, 08:50 AM
iam scared that this has gone on for 5 pages. no wonder people dont read the whole thread when there is so much rubbish to wade through
try jump starting it with another car/battery, if you cant do this then bump start it. if its a carb engine there will be at least enough juice to get a spark. ign on,2nd gear hill, dump clutch....
and the starters are pre engage, therefor the drive gear has to be pulled all the way into the ring gear before the contacts on the back of the solenoid are made and the motor is on like a contactor.
you wont really have to spend any money to answer all the questons youve asked.
all this nonsense about 0Amps and 12v wtf? he said the lights were on and the motor spun so there must be some current there. you do know you can only measure current in series and not across the battery posts like you measure voltage dont you? (or with an induction clamp on meter)
you also need to pull a load (ie the meter in series and the starter turning) but id very much doubt your meter could take 300+A without smoking an aweful lot. hense why garage tong testers have huge resistor banks to give a load with a CT and remote ammeter to measure the current.
have a nice tuesday
love and kisses
Meritlover
Apologize to all as i never thought it would go up to 5 pages long :(
I have no knowledge of cars so sorry for asking dumb questions and not understanding your replys, but how do you learn ?? by asking.
Thanks to all that have given replys :thumb:
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