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brainsnova
30-11-08, 02:37 AM
got an asbo tonight for doing 2 handbrake slides in my transit and the cops werent the happiest with it. The carpark had iced over so i thought id see how it handled.I dont care either way about it but seen it as a bit of fun :roll: Wondered to if an asbo was abrasive action or the best to avoid points and a fine.
congrats for being a tool
brainsnova
30-11-08, 02:57 AM
cheers first time in 5 years lol
NovaLad
30-11-08, 03:04 AM
:wtf: :tosser:
brainsnova isnt a tosser.
turbojolt
30-11-08, 03:18 AM
got an asbo tonight for doing 2 handbrake slides in my transit and the cops werent the happiest with it. The carpark had iced over so i thought id see how it handled.I dont care either way about it but seen it as a bit of fun :roll: Wondered to if an asbo was abrasive action or the best to avoid points and a fine.
well thank you very much if you didn't know i was the biggest c u n t on here but obviously no longer well done you title nicker
and i was loving it by the way lol
brainsnova isnt a tosser.****ing about in a car park surgests otherwise
turbojolt
30-11-08, 03:28 AM
one other thing i pretty sure they can not give you points for funk arsing around in a private car park so if they gave you a a.s.b.o then they took it to the highist level they could and if you really wanted to you could fight it in court as it was not a public disorder act you committed it would be more along the lines of a private matter between you and the land owner for destruction of property ( eg leaving tyre marks) then you should only get a caution unless you have other marks in you criminal record in which case you will be looking at a couple of hundred hours community service
well thank you very much if you didn't know i was the biggest c u n t on here but obviously no longer well done you title nicker
and i was loving it by the way lol
trust me.. before he reaches youre status he'd need to chrash and burn the van while doing an oil check.
~~joycey~~
30-11-08, 06:38 AM
Never mind mate we all get caught being silly sometimes
skidmarkz
30-11-08, 08:27 AM
got an asbo tonight for doing 2 handbrake slides in my transit and the cops werent the happiest with it. The carpark had iced over so i thought id see how it handled.I dont care either way about it but seen it as a bit of fun :roll: Wondered to if an asbo was abrasive action or the best to avoid points and a fine.
i got a ASBO last saturday, I have now put in a formal complaint and will be fighting it till the end as the coppers all 6 of them were jobsworths, there was one seriously hot female though :P bitch gave me a £30 fine for not displaying my tax even though i had it in the car!!
They cant give you point fine or nothing, if you get caught doing summat stupid again they can impound your car/van make you pay towing and storage costs. I think this starts at £175 ifyou dont collect within 14 days they crush your car!
if you get caught a 3rd time they can just crush you car/van and you can be summonsed to court.....
Congratulations on being the epitome of tools.No doubt you are proud of yourselves and will no doubt brag about them to everyone
skidmarkz
30-11-08, 10:48 AM
Congratulations on being the epitome of tools.No doubt you are proud of yourselves and will no doubt brag about them to everyone
im not at all happy with an ASBO, the officer gave no real exscuse as to why he issued it as far as i can tell i was making too much noise ie throttle bodies!, it could well cost me my job! so maybe next time engage your brain before your fingers! :tosser:
djshaggeh
30-11-08, 10:53 AM
congrats for being a tool
Hmmm hypocrite springs to mind, didnt you get banned for drink driving, robbing a work van and stacking it like a tard? In my eyes thats a lil bit worse then pulling a handbrake turn in a carpark.
Hmm a response like that must mean your a tool yourself, as mine was for a loud exhaust! :tosser:
ok, driving like that in a carpark is not really illegal even in a council carpark, even though the council is a public organisation, the carpark is legally private ground, so unless otherwise stated on a sign, anything goes. I did get cautioned for suspiciously climbing into a car in a council car park, I was tipsy & didn't know they were staking it out for car theives, they mistook my having a sneaky piss for forcing the lock
driving round with a really loud exhaust will upset the old bill, there are rules about drive by noise, & as long as the cops have a calibrated decibel meter & follow correct procedure, then you will be liable.. but most coppers are relying on the fact that the general public will incriminate themselves, and admit guilt without any real proof.
skidmarkz
30-11-08, 10:57 AM
ok, driving like that in a carpark is not really illegal even in a council carpark, even though the council is a public organisation, the carpark is legally private ground, so unless otherwise stated on a sign, anything goes. I did get cautioned for suspiciously climbing into a car in a council car park, I was tipsy & didn't know they were staking it out for car theives, they mistook my having a sneaky piss for forcing the lock
driving round with a really loud exhaust will upset the old bill, there are rules about drive by noise, & as long as the cops have a calibrated decibel meter & follow correct procedure, then you will be liable.. but most coppers are relying on the fact that the general public will incriminate themselves, and admit guilt without any real proof.
you alwasy manage to get my post before i edit it lol...
anyway the copper who booked me had to call in a traffic cop as he couldnt work out the tax situation, he in no way had any clue on decible's or even any test equipment hence why i am complaining...
anyone who has seen my nova knows it very quiet, i dont like loud catering size baked bean tin exhausts, but unfortunatly anything over 4k on throttle bodies is loud! without the exhaust...
so explain this asbo thing, can a copper now simply hand them out like that git in the supermarket with the doubleglazing leaflet? surely there is some sort of burden of proof, what if you were driving home & the centre box fell off? you would be legally trying to take the car to a safe place so you could organise its repair
skidmarkz
30-11-08, 11:05 AM
as long as they think you are doing summat wrong your fooked, nothing you can do its so lame... they done me on 1, (b)
Legal shiet...
Vehicles used in manner causing alarm, distress or annoyance
(1) Where a constable in uniform has reasonable grounds for believing that a motor vehicle is being used on any occasion in a manner which—
(a) contravenes section 3 or 34 of the Road Traffic Act 1988 (c. 52) (http://www.opsi.gov.uk/acts/acts1988/ukpga_19880052_en_1) (careless and inconsiderate driving and prohibition of off-road driving), and
(b) is causing, or is likely to cause, alarm, distress or annoyance to members of the public,
he shall have the powers set out in subsection (3).
(2) A constable in uniform shall also have the powers set out in subsection (3) where he has reasonable grounds for believing that a motor vehicle has been used on any occasion in a manner falling within subsection (1).
(3) Those powers are—
(a) power, if the motor vehicle is moving, to order the person driving it to stop the vehicle;
(b) power to seize and remove the motor vehicle;
(c) power, for the purposes of exercising a power falling within paragraph (a) or (b), to enter any premises on which he has reasonable grounds for believing the motor vehicle to be;
(d) power to use reasonable force, if necessary, in the exercise of any power conferred by any of paragraphs to (a) to (c).
(4) A constable shall not seize a motor vehicle in the exercise of the powers conferred on him by this section unless—
(a) he has warned the person appearing to him to be the person whose use falls within subsection (1) that he will seize it, if that use continues or is repeated; and
(b) it appears to him that the use has continued or been repeated after the the warning.
(5) Subsection (4) does not require a warning to be given by a constable on any occasion on which he would otherwise have the power to seize a motor vehicle under this section if—
(a) the circumstances make it impracticable for him to give the warning;
(b) the constable has already on that occasion given a warning under that subsection in respect of any use of that motor vehicle or of another motor vehicle by that person or any other person;
(c) the constable has reasonable grounds for believing that such a warning has been given on that occasion otherwise than by him; or
(d) the constable has reasonable grounds for believing that the person whose use of that motor vehicle on that occasion would justify the seizure is a person to whom a warning under that subsection has been given (whether or not by that constable or in respect the same vehicle or the same or a similar use) on a previous occasion in the previous twelve months.
(6) A person who fails to comply with an order under subsection (3)(a) is guilty of an offence and shall be liable, on summary conviction, to a fine not exceeding level 3 on the standard scale.
(7) Subsection (3)(c) does not authorise entry into a private dwelling house.
(8) The powers conferred on a constable by this section shall be exercisable only at a time when regulations under section 60 are in force.
(9) In this section—
“driving” has the same meaning as in the Road Traffic Act 1988 (c. 52) (http://www.opsi.gov.uk/acts/acts1988/ukpga_19880052_en_1);
“motor vehicle” means any mechanically propelled vehicle, whether or not it is intended or adapted for use on roads; and
“private dwelling house” does not include any garage or other structure occupied with the dwelling house, or any land appurtenant to the dwelling house.
Only courts can issue asbos,and its usually the last resort for offences you have commited.Either you arent telling us the full story or the jobsworth copper doesnt know what hes saying.
General Baxter
30-11-08, 11:11 AM
iv got an asbo, im so ard lol
mine was for noise tho :p
skidmarkz
30-11-08, 11:11 AM
Only courts can issue asbos,and its usually the last resort for offences you have commited.Either you arent telling us the full story or the jobsworth copper doesnt know what hes saying.
shock horror you havent got a fin clue! Can you not read the above post?? or are you blind aswell as dumb? let me lay it out for you simple minded man..... you will notice constable a lot not court
1) Where a constable in uniform has reasonable grounds for believing that a motor vehicle is being used on any occasion in a manner which—
(b) is causing, or is likely to cause, alarm, distress or annoyance to members of the public,
(3) Those powers are—
(a) power, if the motor vehicle is moving, to order the person driving it to stop the vehicle;
(4) A constable shall not seize a motor vehicle in the exercise of the powers conferred on him by this section unless—
(a) he has warned the person appearing to him to be the person whose use falls within subsection (1) that he will seize it, if that use continues or is repeated;
This is my first warning so basically now im ****ed if i get pulled over again in the next 12 months
Next time check for the filth before having a play. I always find a quite carpark (read deserted!) when it snows for a bit of fun.
so from what I gathered from that list (by the way, you are a very fast typist), if you do anything at all involving a vehicle and a copper wants to do you to get his target up, then you are screwed, am I correct????
iv got an asbo, im so ard lol
mine was for noise tho :p
And we all told you to just go round & sleep with that neighbour woman to keep her quiet.......
skidmarkz
30-11-08, 11:24 AM
Next time check for the filth before having a play. I always find a quite carpark (read deserted!) when it snows for a bit of fun.
Dar, i wouldnt have minded mate but i was driving home not racing or doing anything stupid, if i was caught on my normal back road country lane stint i would have totally agreed, i was in a 30 doing 30 with speed cameras present, as i said this copper was an ****..
skidmarkz
30-11-08, 11:25 AM
so from what I gathered from that list (by the way, you are a very fast typist), if you do anything at all involving a vehicle and a copper wants to do you to get his target up, then you are screwed, am I correct????
Correct, it's meant to target teenagers but as always the police have abused the system and are using it on "Boy Racers" to get a message accross :(
so driving down a road legally is now an offence, just how big is your exhaust??
most std 1000cc motorbikes are louder than a boy racer car..
if a car maker fits tints & a loud exhaust, it is ok, but if you retro fit them, it is a crime.
Skidmark-Apoligies from me as it seems you were just going about everyday business and was unlucky to be pulled by a group of coppers p1ssed with power.
General Baxter
30-11-08, 11:37 AM
And we all told you to just go round & sleep with that neighbour woman to keep her quiet.......
nar its not that,
i left my exhaust on a green lane somewhere, the lot, only thing left were the down pipes,
i was driving it round for about 5 days like it,
turbos sounded awsome lol
skidmarkz
30-11-08, 11:39 AM
so driving down a road legally is now an offence, just how big is your exhaust??
most std 1000cc motorbikes are louder than a boy racer car..
if a car maker fits tints & a loud exhaust, it is ok, but if you retro fit them, it is a crime.
its a 2 1/2" 2 box system with a 3" exit, its not even straight through :(
nar its not that,
i left my exhaust on a green lane somewhere, the lot, only thing left were the down pipes,
i was driving it round for about 5 days like it,
turbos sounded awsome lol
how the hell did you ground it out, its got the ground clearance of one of these \/\/
http://tbn0.google.com/images?q=tbn:k9wsMYNfwcP8cM:http://www.zpmc.com/uploadimages/2004/12/30/61482011.gif (http://www.zpmc.com/uploadimages/2004/12/30/61482011.gif)
General Baxter
30-11-08, 11:46 AM
i think it was a tree lol
were you caught driving up long street getting the echo going?
wilson_sri
30-11-08, 12:13 PM
I love how everyone is calling him a cock and a tool, yet majority would of done something similar before.
Welsh Dan
30-11-08, 12:15 PM
I love how everyone is calling him a cock and a tool, yet majority would of done something similar before.
I beg to differ.
I love how everyone is calling him a cock and a tool, yet majority would of done something similar before.
i also disagree with this
I beg to differ.
Yeah noone else posted up about in a public forum. The police (most of the time) havnt got a clue. My mate had 15" alloys on his and got told they were too big for the car!
Its just a modified car is an easy target. Exhausts are just a reason to pull somone over so they can try finding somthing wrong.
Some coppers are alright. They know young drivers like to meet up and mess around in there cars. I used to be out with mates all the time just sitting around in industrial estate cars carks etc
General Baxter
30-11-08, 12:30 PM
Some coppers are alright. They know young drivers like to meet up and mess around in there cars. I used to be out with mates all the time just sitting around in industrial estate cars carks etc
ummmm that would make me sound ghay lol
i go up the woods with 4-5 male mates lol
ummmm that would make me sound ghay lol
i go up the woods with 4-5 male mates lol
and come back covered in sh1t:thumb:
wilson_sri
30-11-08, 12:37 PM
i also disagree with this
No doubt you would.
coombsey
30-11-08, 12:38 PM
my asbo has not long ended but that was for being a tool with my younger brother first 6 months had to be in house for 6 pm didnt get home till 5 wasnt allowed out in my street be tween 6 and 530am 3 yrs in total
No doubt you would.
having been a victim of police officers trying to lean on the general public because they think they can, I have every sympathy for anyone who gets on the wrong side of any officer.
I haven't called anyone a cock or a tool, & I think there were 2 or three at the start of the thread, followed by the majority of users actually being sympathetic to the lad.
The whole ASBO carry on is absolutely ridiculous, completely does away with innocent until proven guilty as it's ENTIRELY down to the officers opinion, no witnesses required, no proof, no backup. Basically if he/she takes a disliking to the colour of your car you're shafted.
And anyone who's calling brains a tool clearly needs to get out more. Where do you think the likes of Russ Swift learnt their craft?
Having a play and learning how your car/van reacts in tricky conditions in a nice open carpark is infinately more sensible than finding out when you're heading towards a tree/car/person after losing control on the road.
Welsh Dan
30-11-08, 01:03 PM
And anyone who's calling brains a tool clearly needs to get out more. Where do you think the likes of Russ Swift learnt their craft?
Having a play and learning how your car/van reacts in tricky conditions in a nice open carpark is infinately more sensible than finding out when you're heading towards a tree/car/person after losing control on the road.
I agree with learning about the vehicle, but if there was a plod around to hand out an ASBO then the car park/runway wasn't empty enough.
dj_wudgey
30-11-08, 01:09 PM
The whole ASBO carry on is absolutely ridiculous, completely does away with innocent until proven guilty as it's ENTIRELY down to the officers opinion, no witnesses required, no proof, no backup. Basically if he/she takes a disliking to the colour of your car you're shafted.
And anyone who's calling brains a tool clearly needs to get out more. Where do you think the likes of Russ Swift learnt their craft?
Having a play and learning how your car/van reacts in tricky conditions in a nice open carpark is infinately more sensible than finding out when you're heading towards a tree/car/person after losing control on the road.
i agree matey at least your not going 50mph on a road trying to do it lol!!!
but then weve all had our moments!!!!
I feel sorry for the next generation, even the police now think there are too many rules.
And anyone who's calling brains a tool clearly needs to get out more. Where do you think the likes of Russ Swift learnt their craft?
Having a play and learning how your car/van reacts in tricky conditions in a nice open carpark is infinately more sensible than finding out when you're heading towards a tree/car/person after losing control on the road.
Totally agree. Every time it snows, i deliberately go out and find a nice icy carpark for some fun. Im normally joined by a load of other random peeps as well, and somethimes, a patrol car comes to watch!
Either your local cops are a REAL bunch of ****wits, or you are not telling the whole story. Either way, Im not judging you.
surely by the description given, its not an asbo, but a section 59?
skidmarkz
30-11-08, 02:47 PM
Totally agree. Every time it snows, i deliberately go out and find a nice icy carpark for some fun. Im normally joined by a load of other random peeps as well, and somethimes, a patrol car comes to watch!
Either your local cops are a REAL bunch of ****wits, or you are not telling the whole story. Either way, Im not judging you.
Kent police are total assholes, they normally only pull me over as im bright orange and dont ever have a front grille on the car, couple that with noise and its pull time.. it's got very bad down here tot he point where all the local spots have had speed humps installed or bariers on car parks.
surely by the description given, its not an asbo, but a section 59?
Section 59 "Police Reform Act 2002, Tackling Anti-Social Behaviour" .. classed as a section 59 - ASBO..
oooh i didnt know it was an asbo, god i have loads of em!
te cops round here dish em out as warnings, but you never get hte letters, lol
brainsnova
30-11-08, 08:57 PM
tonight it looks icy so im going for another go tonight lol
checked with my mate who is a west midlands copper, & he says it is not an ASBO, but a section59, which is different. it is a wide ranging law & is open to interpretation. apparently, if the carpark is not at a 24hr premises, like a station or 24hr supermarket, then as it is private land, as long as you are not damaging, or nicking, then you can pretty much have some fun, but in his words, 'if they are a **** with me, I will look a lot harder for something that is illegal.'
ps. anyone in the west mids, the big purge this christmas is numberplates, & drink driving. so Don't drink & drive, & definitely don't have illegal plates.......
see i knew i was right, lol
checked with my mate who is a west midlands copper, & he says it is not an ASBA...
ASBA - should'nt that be ABBA?
lol
A verse of 2 for you - (to the tune of MAMA MIA - ABBA!)
I've been sliding by you since I don't know when
(LA LA LALALA LA LA LALALA)
Pulled my handbrake so tight when I went round that bend!
(LA LA LALALA LA LA LALALA)
Look at me now, will I ever learn?
I don't know how - but I suddenly lost control
Now my Transit is in a hole!
WHAM!
Just one bump and now the front end's all dinged!
One more look and now I'm sh1tting my ring!
OH O OH O!
Mamma Mia, here I go again
My my, how my Transit slid ooh!?
Mamma mia, in the sh1t again?
My my, Police are in my rear view!
Yes, now I'm broken hearted
Me and my license parted!
Why, why did Judge forgive me oh!
Mamma mia, now I pay the fine!
My my, wallet feels the pinch oh!
Lesson learnt
STOP BEING A T W A T!
It's not big and doing it in a transit - that's just not clever!
:thumb:
brainsnova
30-11-08, 10:52 PM
cheers for all the positive comments they are much apprieciated and im joking im not going to do it again but still think the cops were out of order as i spoke to a chief constable and theres actions was'nt justified.
erm... car parks are for parking not flinging a transit around in ice.
You need to take it on an ice rink for that!
http://graphics8.nytimes.com/images/2007/01/07/automobiles/mercedes.ice.533.jpg
We usually have a great one in Gleasgow's George Square!
:wtf: :tosser:
lol isn't this how you bent your Nova!
edit* brains, hard luck pal! Most of us like to have a play somewhere safe when the snow/frost comes. As said, you were an easy target for them to get some brownie points by dishing out what seems like a section 59.
I've never had anything like that but I know people who do/have and 9 times out of 10 it is a totally OTT reaction :(
brainsnova
01-12-08, 01:50 AM
i wait a whole year for the frost to come for some skid pan action and the funny thing was the woman cop was a man inside and was a T2 sarah connor lookalike= ugly.
think you just got a c*ck of a copper tbh brains, i got pulled for wheelieing past a traffic copper in morrisons car park, twice, on a zx6 with a race can cut down 6" in front of all my mates at about 10pm, he even had me on camera, all he did was give me a bit of earache about how daft it was doing it in such a public place and told me to find somewhere quieter!! then commented on me having a 'nice bike' and asked how i could afford to insure it at 20 year old, not a word about the noise. some coppers are ok, most arent, luck of the draw i reckon. the one that caught me doing 110 on the m/way in the corsa definitely wasnt, although i was a bit of a c*ck toward him in all fairness, ended up going to court. only got a 28 day ban with a £60 fine though
brainsnova
02-12-08, 03:21 AM
after 14 days if i get no papers through the door to confirm it im going to file a complaint about how i was spoke to and treated. I know there are sound coppers and nobs they know themselves who they are.
ade your a funking legend
DaveyLC
02-12-08, 08:53 AM
****ing about in a car park surgests otherwise
I'm an 'adult' and I still **** about some times. You must have a little lapse of childishness every now and then?
brainsnova
05-12-08, 02:12 AM
sliding on ice isnt childish i saved my 1.3sr from a bad smash with my slid control and also my calibra after i lost the back end due to excessive lowering by the previous owner and the back wheels had a serious camber angle and the grip was a 1/4 the tire. only found out after taking out in the wet but corrected it . good times though.
^ is that not the kinda thing you should see before taking the car out? That the camber is way out and that could cause some handling issues?
driving round with a really loud exhaust will upset the old bill, there are rules about drive by noise, & as long as the cops have a calibrated decibel meter & follow correct procedure, then you will be liable
No there aren't. Well, there are, but its EU regulations, I've known people to read mountains of blurb and still not know the exact limit, so its unlikely Officer Dibble will. However, the EU regulations are very strict on how the noise levels should be measured; suffice to say a dB meter on the side of a road or in a car park does not constitute a suitable reading.
anyway the copper who booked me had to call in a traffic cop as he couldnt work out the tax situation
He's within his rights to have fined you - you weren't displaying the tax disc, which is a direct offence. Hoving said that, if you said yes sir sorry sir and put the disc in its place then most of the coppers I've met would have let you off, unless they're feeling particularly cnut-ish of you annoyed them in some way. Probably just by being alive lol
so explain this asbo thing, can a copper now simply hand them out like that git in the supermarket with the doubleglazing leaflet?
As far as I'm aware someone has to make a formal complaint to the council in order for an Asbo to be issued (plod were banging on about how they couldn't issue one to some gyppos in the local rag t'other week as nobody had lodged a formal complaint). However, that complaint could come from an old biddy who lives across the road and rang the police to say some chav is sat in a car park and I don't like it etc.
As pointed out by Slothsport, this sounds more like a Section 59 (http://www.opsi.gov.uk/Acts/acts2002/ukpga_20020030_en_7#pt4-ch2-pb5-l1g59) of the Police Reform Act 2002 (http://www.opsi.gov.uk/Acts/acts2002/ukpga_20020030_en_1), which is all about seizure of vehicles and the coppers CAN hand out willy-nilly. However, they have to issue you a warning first (unless its impracticable to do so), which I assume is what they've given you.
most std 1000cc motorbikes are louder than a boy racer car..
if a car maker fits tints & a loud exhaust, it is ok, but if you retro fit them, it is a crime.
No, standard fit tints will get you nicked if they're not legal. I've heard rumours abound when that law came out - probably not true mind - of police sitting at the entrance of Chrysler forecourts waiting for people to come out with their brand new Voyagers etc and nab them for illegal tints!
And yeah, I've never understood the bike thing, although they also have availability of aftermarket not-road-legal exhausts too. Only difference is they're quick enough to get away lol
Anyway. For those of you who are defending fcuking around in a car park on ice because it teaches car control, don't be so daft. Sliding around in a car park with the handbrake wrenched on is nothing at all like being on the road, unless you're doing 30+ in the car park in which case you deserve to have your collar felt by the fuzz. There's a reason why skid pan driving is cheap and readily available through motoring institutions - I've always been of the opinion that post-test advanced driving course should be mandatory, and that should include skin pan. I enjoy driving on ice/snow as much as the next person, but I see it as a challenge in careful driving, not seeing if you can make mum's hatchback do a 360 in tescos car park before you bump the trolleys lol
Brains, take it on the chin and don't do it again.
lmao at people flaming the OP for playing around in a car park in the snow
can you use the section 59 to get off work for a day ? i got one a few years ago that banned me from going around J27 of the M1, right where my job was lol
brainsnova
05-12-08, 04:49 PM
[quote=Razorjack]^ is that not the kinda thing you should see before taking the car out? That the camber is way out and that could cause some handling issues?
it was on the way home from buying the car as it was in a tight driveway and only really noticible if you looked under the back bumper.
Next time check for the filth before having a play. I always find a quite carpark (read deserted!) when it snows for a bit of fun.
I was about to say, I love nipping to the empty end of the work car park for a little play, no harm done :thumb: And I'm not a tool.
My ASBO was for being so f*****g ugly though LMAO lol lol lol lol
brainsnova
09-12-08, 09:54 AM
do you think an asbo inside like the intel one on the back door of my van will go down well with the police.
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