redtop and 1.6 8v defferances - pro's - con's

[stevie-p]

is there a link to the low down on the 1.6 8v and the redtop
im stuck in the middle atm and i am not sure weather to go for a redtop or 1600 or if anybody can be bothered to write it out for me it will be much appreciated
cheers
steve

[craig green]

By god! No comparison.

Both were launched at approximately the same time, yet one is blessed with lots of technology, the other almost specced as if it came from the arc.

I dont like 2.0 valvers in Novas, but you need a good reason not to put one in IMO.


Twincam all the way unless you are trying to keep a GTE/GSi factory.

[Jack]

Whats the difference? About 50bhp lol

[Mike]

And about the same in kilo's lol

8 extra valves, 1 extra cam, larger clutch, physically bigger box etc etc

[MyNovaSr]

Agreed the XE is an ok engine but I think the 8v lump is fantastic.

best of both worlds, cav sri 130 engine

[stevie-p]

for got to mension also it will be in a track car and obviously be on twin 40's polished ported cam etc on the 1600 my dad said to me to get the 1600 but i want to think it through and get advice as i dont want to get one and bugger wish i got the other

[craig green]

Power potential from the 1600 isnt very much & will nearly bankrupt you getting the output that an XE musters as std.

I'm not slating anyone with a proven 1600 8v, but the XE is an absolute gem. A 150k smoker will still have some life left in it & pull like a train.

The 1600 16v falls nicely in the middle. I've owned all 3 & speak the truth.

[Timmy]

2.0 valus for money

[stevie-p]

well i think i am going to have a good think on this one and maybe more research thnaks for the help fella's much appreciated
cheers
steve

[Ash]

Power potential from the 1600 isnt very much & will nearly bankrupt you getting the output that an XE musters as std.


My 1650 8v has cost roughly £1500 and most of the stuff wasn't new, but it was a fully rebuild to top spec.

It depends on what you want the car for really. Gaytop is a cheaper and easier option to get the power

[craig green]

Ash I had you in mind when I was typing my last reply.
I've seen dan's old engine go on track & it was fantastic.

Personally if it was me, I'd have an Astra GTE 16v all day if I had to have an XE. The chassis is far better suited to the engine than any Nova.

[paddy138]

1.6 8v tb`d would be my choice, not a fan of big block xe`s in novas unless there c20let

[Ash]

Personally if it was me, I'd have an Astra GTE 16v all day if I had to have an XE. The chassis is far better suited to the engine than any Nova.
^ this man speaks da truth!

[stevie-p]

1.6 8v tb`d would be my choice, not a fan of big block xe`s in novas unless there c20let

im not a fan of turbo's unless its a showcar or come with one standard

[craig green]

^ this man speaks da truth!

After owning 2 Astra GTE 16v's. Tbh its the best cars I've ever had. Waaaay better than a Nova but I've no idea why I still don't have one. :roll:

Man's car!

[Adam]

Agreed the XE is an ok engine but I think the 8v lump is fantastic.

best of both worlds, cav sri 130 engine
"ok" engine? Lol
The XE was a proper performance motor back in its day(and still is to an extent), and out performed pretty much all other "hot hatch" engines when it was first developed. And is far far superior to the 8v 2L.
They used them in the BTCC for a reason.....

Id have a 1600 8v or 16v over a 2L 8v anyday.

[craig green]

8v's have a lot of fans as they outsold/out numbered the XE's (Cav GSi's & GTE's etc) massively.

So many left on the road but as Adam says, in its day the XE was one of the best 4 cyl engines out there. Only BMW's 2.3(2.5?) E30 M3 engine was any better really, and that had a greater capacity to get bigger power.

The XE was handbuilt IIRC which just goes to show why they plod on to mega miles.

[Adam]

They probably outsold them because cheaper costs(buying the car in the first place, insurance cost etc)

[nick_nova]

a xe nova came 2nd in the handling circuit at TOTB. im sure you wont be thinking i wish i put the 1600 in if you put the xe in! more power and can still handle.

[Novasport]

What about a C16XE, 1.6 & 16v with great tuning potential and lower weight than C20XE. Best of both worlds! Or even a small block X18XE1, but it would need some thought on fuelling(TB's or carbs). Just a thought!

[Paul]

redtop and 1.6 8v defferances - pro's - con's

1.6 8V
Pros- None its pap
Cons- Usually in the way in a Nova engine bay and you have to take them out

REDTOP
Pros- Loads
Cons- Every other tosser thinks theyre worth £700 when selling and £50 when buying.

[Lee H]

1.6 8V
Pros- None its pap
Cons- Usually in the way in a Nova engine bay and you have to take them out

REDTOP
Pros- Loads
Cons- Every other tosser thinks theyre worth £700 when selling and £50 when buying.

This man speaks the truth. :thumb: