why can you not use calibra rear brakes

[turbo-boy]

hello there doing disc converion at the mo. was told that i couldnt use calibra rear brake set up nd only to use mk2 and mk3 astra 16v discs why is this?

[burgo]

because youve been talking to someone who doesnt have a clue

[~~joycey~~]

because youve been talking to someone who doesnt have a clue


lol

[turbo-boy]

so you can use them on nova? was it something to do with hand brake cable mounting? for mot

[draper]

there basically the same anyway iirc

[burgo]

http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a226/sclurgess/td/28-08-06_1315.jpg

that has got cavalier 5 stud rear hubs which are identicle to calibra

[turbo-boy]

ok and i take it they are the same as the 4 stud?

[Pistol Pete]

No. They have 5 studs...:p ;) lol

[turbo-boy]

i mean where they bolt on im only on 4 stud so all 4 stud rear disc set up are the same?

[Pistol Pete]

I have an Astra GTE 16v rear disc conversion on my Nova. They are four stud so i would assume they are the same yes. I cant say 100% for sure though. Sorry.

[draper]

i have an astra GTE set-up on one beam and a calibra set-up on another one and they look the same, the only problems people have with handbrake cables is the lengths, cav MK2 short side rings a bell, try the search feature ;)

[BIGS]

ive got astra gte ones on mine and it uses the nova cables

[turbo-boy]

so the calibra rear discs and stuff will fit on. got confussed people talkin as if they hav vauxhall blood in there vines when in fact they are just max power readers and re just talkin the talk. cheers draper

[BIGS]

yes they will

[turbo-boy]

cheers thank you

[ck]

no they wont.

calibras use independent rear suspension and the rear brake setup is completely different...

you can use the stuff off mk2 astra, mk3 astra, mk3 cavalier (non-irs) and M-tech make kits to use the mk4 astra rear discs aswell.

vectra rear discs are larger but can be used aswell (bit more effort involved)

[Ben]

no they wont.

calibras use independent rear suspension and the rear brake setup is completely different...

you can use the stuff off mk2 astra, mk3 astra, mk3 cavalier (non-irs) and M-tech make kits to use the mk4 astra rear discs aswell.

vectra rear discs are larger but can be used aswell (bit more effort involved)

Listen to this man he speaks the truth you seek.

[draper]

good work CK

mine must be off a cav then :confused: not that it matters as i have 2 set-ups so dont need to know lol

[Andy_L]

Ck, can you explain please as I don't understand.

In my simple mind I see a hub, brake disc and caliper. What's the IRS got to do with it?

Edit: I'm not saying you're wrong I genuinely don't understand. Cheers

[Ben]

Its to do with the way the hub is mounted onto the stub axles whereas the IRS is a different setupetc, i used to have some pics on photobucket showing the differences but deleted them.

Its the same problem with the Cav GSi rear hubs etc, whereas a (mk3) astra sport or Cav diplomat etc is spot on.

[white2lSR]

because youve been talking to someone who doesnt have a clue


lol Classic

[craig green]

Only the Calipers & discs are any use from a Cav GSi or Calibra.

[turbo-boy]

thanks people now i know wat i need cheers

[Andy_L]

So which hubs do people use for 5 studding then?

Vectra?

(OT I know but meh)

[craig green]

So which hubs do people use for 5 studding then?

Vectra?

(OT I know but meh)

Cav V6 5 stud or Vectra. Seeing as the Vectra has IRS I guess the components are entirely different to the Cav IRS setup.

[Ben]

Cav V6 5 stud or Vectra. Seeing as the Vectra has IRS I guess the components are entirely different to the Cav IRS setup.

Yes Craig they are different to the Cav/Calibra setup.

If you get a Cav V6 rear beam you can use the brackets whereas if you use the vectra set then you need to buy the adapter plates as the brackets are totally different.

[GDN16v]

Cav V6 5 stud or Vectra. Seeing as the Vectra has IRS I guess the components are entirely different to the Cav IRS setup.

Not really the hubs are quite similar, the discs and callipers are very similar!:thumb:

[ck]

if your having problems making up or finding a rear 5stud disc setup you can use this...

cavalier v6 rear discs.
vectra 5stud rear hubs
astra/cav ect 4stud rear disc backing plates and handbrake shoes ect
astra/cav/cal ect rear calipers.


or saab 9-3 stuff. i have a set down my makes scrapy yard on a saab still lol

[Ben]

pretty sure ive got a few sets still in my old unit.

[Shaun]

want help with this please as im confused

ive fitted vectra 5 stud rear hubs onto my nova.

ive been told i need cav v6 discs and cannot use the vectra ones?

why is this???

Cheers

[Graeme]

The vectra ones will be fine as long as the handbrake lever is on the top

[Shaun]

u mean the bit the cable clips to?

[brainsnova]

drum brakes are the way forward, rear discs are only visual imo

[Shaun]

lol

these are only for looks
http://www.jmldirect.com/product.asp?pf_id=S4970&changecurrency=GBP

but people still do it... lol

discs for me :P

[Graeme]

Yes mate

[Shaun]

ta graeme, plus rep fella!

will double check tonight, but if i change to cav v6 rear disc that wouldnt affect the handbrake anyways would it?

[Graeme]

No pal iirc the in board shoes are just bigger on the Vec, cav v6 is just what people originally used, mine are vectra but they seem to fit

[Shaun]

any pics of yours?

the hub has gone on fine, but havent fitted the handbrake yet as didnt get time