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right i know this is gonna be a ball ache but does anyone have pics? i have a spare xe and i wanna try it! pic whore away peeps!
Dan (bigs) has one I think...
http://www.johncleland.net/images/waugh/JohnCleland%20engine%20bay.jpg
cool hows it attached etc a breif guide would be good!
and what management would you sugest
cool hows it attached etc a breif guide would be good!
A guide lol thats real funny lol lol thousands upon thousands of pounds of development and research went into build BTCC spec motors! Theres no guide! Theres no "how to"!!!!
Give up now, I garantee you will not never ever no no figure out, plan out, manufacture let alone even afford to do it!!
With regards to management, BTCC cars used a system with a stack dash, flappy gearbox paddle, gear shift light telling what gear etc etc so around £8ks worth.
if you really want one just call swindon race engines, they will sell you all the bits needed to do it, you cannot use a stock head and just spin it round, they were cast especially
no advanatage with ram air til 80odd mph, and you would have to make a tunnel to route the exhaust manifold.
£7/8k maybe for just a complete head? about £16k for an engine:wtf:
what bout using the exhaust side as the inlet? and vice versa? set up right ie timing etc it should run.
its not 8k for the head, more like 4/5, but tbh, it just sounds like dreamland, if you think you could use the ports in reverse
the shape and size are totally different, and one wont want to work as the other and vice versa, then there is valve size to consider, its just a no tbh
and its nothing to do with ram efect anyway, it all about the better exhaust design that become available to you with the head the other way round,and we're not talking lots of gains here
I always believed the ports were used backwards, ie the front ports became inlets, the rears - exhaust... the main reason was for much improved packaging & weight distribution.. the actual power increase would have been minimal, due to the rev limit on the btcc category.
I always believed the ports were used backwards, ie the front ports became inlets, the rears - exhaust... the main reason was for much improved packaging & weight distribution.. the actual power increase would have been minimal, due to the rev limit on the btcc category.
Yeah cause the heat is on in reverse...
if the head was on backwards, nothing would line up, & the PRODUCTION BASED castings would be rather difficult to fit & get the camshafts to stick out the right end,
all the picture shows the spark plug cover is backwards
Anyone got any other pics of this?
fundamental flaw in using the ports in reverse is the size and shape as i have said, swindon got a new casting made for the engine, it is not a stock head spun round at all
also the cam cover was made from magnezium and into a stressed member at some point too, so when it was used in certain applications suspension could be attached to it
I always believed the ports were used backwards, ie the front ports became inlets, the rears - exhaust... the main reason was for much improved packaging & weight distribution.. the actual power increase would have been minimal, due to the rev limit on the btcc category.
true enough, but the rev limits where no that much of a problem in the super touring days, the gains come from the nicer exhaust design and the better port size the new castings had, the engine is still being used in the WTCC by chevrolet
novaboyopr
02-11-08, 03:49 PM
only pic i have of a swindon head.
http://i397.photobucket.com/albums/pp52/millsey123/swindon.jpg
got 2 others which are from the btcc but with normall head layout
http://i397.photobucket.com/albums/pp52/millsey123/1st20visit1.jpg
http://i397.photobucket.com/albums/pp52/millsey123/1st20visit204.jpg
loggyboy
02-11-08, 03:52 PM
Im sure I recal something about being able to bolt on pug MI16 head to the XE block achieveing the reverse setup. I remember Chip and Mongo dicussing it on RB YEARS ago.
the pic with carbon bodies, is that a std head? looks it. what was the rest of the swindon spec? btw has anyone heard of the u.s 2.5 bottom ends?
if it was a standard head the trumpets would be on the other side :roll:
loggyboy
02-11-08, 04:00 PM
if it was a standard head the trumpets would be on the other side :roll:
hes talking about the 2nd set of pics
novaboyopr
02-11-08, 04:01 PM
they look the same but are totally different when it comes to the inside casting. same as the reverse head but just not reversed if you know what i mean, and if are talking about the first pic no its not a standard head at all.
hes talking about the 2nd set of pics
2nd set of pics have metal bodies, he said carbon bodies.
novaboyopr
02-11-08, 04:08 PM
well in that case no its not just a standard head, its reversed mate.
mmmmmmmmmm stand off injectors!!
more like mmm swindon roller barrels!
Check out that flywheel too!
my flwheel is very similar, just a bigger diamaeter as i didnt fancy a 5.5'' clutch
ace-media
02-11-08, 04:42 PM
How hard is it to hammer in to peoples heads that it isn't just as simple as sticking the damn head on? jeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeez! Nobody in their right mind would be stupid enough to put a 'proper' full on Swindon XE in a Nova, there is absolutely no point in it unless you want to waste thousands upon thousands of pounds.
Bearing in mind the main reason for reversing the head was for exhaust flow - tiny amount of power to be found when traded off against the work and expense required.
To satisfy anybody's curiosity however, here are a couple of pics of this years Vectra BTCC engine bays - engines built by a French firm whose name I keep forgetting :)
http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e112/alexellson/BTCC%20Donington/1.jpg
http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e112/alexellson/BTCC%20Donington/3.jpg
http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e112/alexellson/BTCC%20Donington/4.jpg
Any sort of specs on those BTCC engines? Do they run multi throttles in a plenum????
i was only asking! the real reason is i have been offered a swindon lump, for 1.5k, whaddaya reckon? oh and quote:- Im sure I recal something about being able to bolt on pug MI16 head to the XE block achieveing the reverse setup. I remember Chip and Mongo dicussing it on RB YEARS ago. is this true? i feel a bit of mutant engine building going on....
t45_ste
02-11-08, 04:48 PM
Thats cheap as fook. Get it bought.
i was only asking! the real reason is i have been offered a swindon lump, for 1.5k
*cough* bullsheet *cough*
No one, and mean NO ONE would let a Swindon motor go for that price.
EDIT: The over gearbox manifolds are worth £500 on there own! Backs up my opinion that, you talk cack.
ace-media
02-11-08, 04:56 PM
*cough* bullsheet *cough*
No one, and mean NO ONE would let a Swindon motor go for that price.
EDIT: The over gearbox manifolds are worth £500 on there own! Backs up my opinion that, you talk cack.
Seconded. No way is that gonna be a proper Swindon engine! No way.
Backs up my opinion that, you talk cack.
Agreed!!
and its nothing to do with ram efect anyway, it all about the better exhaust design that become available to you with the head the other way round,and we're not talking lots of gains here
i know it has sod all to do with ram air and was done for the shapes of the exhaust ports, but some people may end up commenting or asking if they were used for ram air!!
ace_media - you thinking of these people:
http://www.risse-motorsport.de/shop_motor_tuning/dohc/index.shtml
34k euros for there swindon type motor
id laugh if he really did get offered a swindon motor for £1500 lol
If any thread was due a thrashing or guaranteed to get peoples backs up it was this one
For poeple who were saying Re: Mi16 head>>
Mi16 head
http://www.des-developments.com/images/black%20build/cylinder_head.jpg
t45_ste
02-11-08, 05:17 PM
http://www.racecarsdirect.com/listing/17368/Completely_new_Swindon_SRE_XE_295_BHP_engine.html
Note build cost ;) £27k
I was on there eariler Ste actually looking at some parts that took my interest lol lol didnt see that mind.
i've looked into using the Mi16 head. the head gasket matches up to an xe gasket very well, all head bolts and bores line up, just oil/water galeries i did not have a chance to look into. ive heard it has been doen before with the Mi16 head on xe bottom end.
its supposed to be a very good head as std (the Mi16 is 160hp and 1.9 a std) so should in theory produce good power on an xe bottom end due to the larger displacement.
heres a couple more pics of the reverse head
i have more some where ill post em up when i find em
http://i70.photobucket.com/albums/i95/ckallis500/859.jpg
http://i70.photobucket.com/albums/i95/ckallis500/618.jpg
http://i70.photobucket.com/albums/i95/ckallis500/juko1.jpg
It'll offer next to no hp gains at all! All will do is open up space to put multi barrel TB's on the front of the motor and the manifold at the back, this is where the gains will be seen (very miniscule ones at that!)
The only reason BTCC cars did this (this being reversed head) as they tried to squeeze every avaliable ounce of power out the motor at the time regardless of cost. Where as in the real world, where we dont have £500k build budgets things have to be done other ways.
EDIT: Look at it another way, if reversed head's offered massive gains, dont you think by now (18+ years after XE's were first marketed) they'd be a company doing said conversions day in day out :thumb:
look i know what it is, the guy used to run an ex john cleland super tourer and is a family friend. hes been in motorsport for 30 years, and you think i'm a retard? err wrong. i ask for advice and people take the piss. oh well. to those who arnt a$$holes, what box and suspension and brakes would you run? money no object. i want to put it into a 4dr saloon and do a sort of track car touring car rep. i did think of space framing it but how legal is it?
Buy it and sale it for £10k
t45_ste
02-11-08, 06:05 PM
Ive just bought a similar spec to a swindon XE (bar the reverse head) pushing 290bhp. Im using a quaife 32G sequential box. Space framing, pushing the engine down and back. :thumb:
Ive just bought a similar spec to a swindon XE (bar the reverse head) pushing 290bhp. Im using a quaife 32G sequential box. Space framing, pushing the engine down and back. :thumb:
I earn damn good money but cant even dream of spending anywhere near what you have on that Nova!
thanks t45 ste, do you have a wip thread?
as a minimum on a top spec touring car engine you want a quaife sequential gearbox or is it the xtrac which are used in the btcc cars? looking at around £10k+ for the gearbox and bits needed
t45_ste
02-11-08, 06:09 PM
I do but there isnt much on it. Just a collection of parts, on with building the jig for the space frame at the moment.
t45_ste
02-11-08, 06:09 PM
I earn damn good money but cant even dream of spending anywhere near what you have on that Nova!
lol Cant take it with me.
my thoughts exactly. i dont drink, smoke or have a bird. i live at home and earn 40k a year. so why not eh?
look i know what it is, the guy used to run an ex john cleland super tourer and is a family friend. hes been in motorsport for 30 years, and you think i'm a retard? err wrong. i ask for advice and people take the piss. oh well. to those who arnt a$$holes, what box and suspension and brakes would you run? money no object. i want to put it into a 4dr saloon and do a sort of track car touring car rep. i did think of space framing it but how legal is it?
Believe if I ever see it happen :roll:
Rick Draper
02-11-08, 07:19 PM
OMG This thread made me ****ing cock myself.
Never have i seen so much bollocks posted by one user.
O by the way i have just bought the motor out of one of this seasons Ferraris, My mates dads, mum is friends with the cousins sister in law of the ferrari head engine dyno room cleaner and has got me one for £1k off Luca D.
I intend to build myself a 4 door nova loon with this engine fitted in, probably mated to a ferrari sequential gearbox.
OMG This thread made me ****ing cock myself.
Never have i seen so much bollocks posted by one user.
O by the way i have just bought the motor out of one of this seasons Ferraris, My mates dads, mum is friends with the cousins sister in law of the ferrari head engine dyno room cleaner and has got me one for £1k off Luca D.
I intend to build myself a 4 door nova loon with this engine fitted in, probably mated to a ferrari sequential gearbox.
Just dont buy a toyota engine they cut out on bends.
LMFAO lol lol lol
Rick, Nail Head ;)
Rick Draper
02-11-08, 07:27 PM
O i forgot to mention, my mates mum and dad were personal friends with Enzo Ferrari and so have strong ties to them all so dont fecking question me.
the thing about swindon race engines is that they made a great many specs of engine, and if someone has an old one in need of a rebuild, or they simply want rid, & it has no ancillaries, it could easily be bought for £1.5k
remember this, people only sell an engine like that if it is of no further use to them...........
CoupeUK
02-11-08, 07:27 PM
Why mock?
For all you lot know, im in the middle of buying an Enzo but you cant prove it either way.....if he earns 40k a year then good luck to the lad!
Community spirit should be advising the guy not taking the piss.......
Even in a funked state though it would still be worth a lot more then £1.5k though.
Re: the first post:
right i know this is gonna be a ball ache but does anyone have pics? i have a spare xe and i wanna try it! pic whore away peeps!
A spare XE overnight turned into a full on Swindon motor lol pull the other one lol
Rick Draper
02-11-08, 07:36 PM
Even in a funked state though it would still be worth a lot more then £1.5k though.
Re: the first post:
A spare XE overnight turned into a full on Swindon motor lol pull the other one lol
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v444/RickDraper/TheresFail.jpg
If you wanted an engine with the head around the other way. Why not look at the Pug engines.
If you wanted an engine with the head around the other way. Why not look at the Pug engines.
Cause the plastic pistons melt to quick...
t45_ste
02-11-08, 07:47 PM
:)
Cause the plastic pistons melt to quick...
lol Where did you hear that?
Tis a mighty fine engine:D
t45_ste
02-11-08, 07:51 PM
Especially in alloy block form.
Alloy block? Isn't that a 4k upgrade for the XE? These pug engines are sounding better after each post :D
Rick Draper
02-11-08, 07:56 PM
http://www.pngclub.com/forum/showthread.php?t=100378
Whats this guy on?
He is the dick that building a replica of my old pos nova as well according to some of his posts.
t45_ste
02-11-08, 07:58 PM
There are 2 types, 1905cc (wet liners, alloy block, 160bhp) as fitted to 405 until 1992 and 1998cc (iron block, 150bhp, Catalyst) from 1992 on. 4x4 models don't run a different engine. If you are looking to use the engine in a 205, use the lighter 1905cc unit.
Was considering dumping one in mine. My gearbox is universal (just change part of the bellhousing) Knock up some custom mounts. Job done:thumb:
lol Where did you hear that?
Tis a mighty fine engine:D
Its a joke cause everything the french make is out of plastic at the mo...
and is it? You wanna try working on them..
Oh I have and do work on the fecking things. All I can say is I am glad I have little hands and a ramp. Oh and also Chris the ex pug mechanic :D
sloth - do yourself a favour, get proof of the engine or that you have bought it and have it in your possession(spl) then you can laugh at every one for being dickheads or you can expect a royal piss taking of the century.
if your on £40k a year, your on about £2200 take home?( im on £36k and take £2050 so rough guess) then no reason why cant do it, but if it was me id personally look at the normal xe's produced by swindon, sbd etc, that are about 280-290bhp or so.
Oh I have and do work on the fecking things. All I can say is I am glad I have little hands and a ramp. Oh and also Chris the ex pug mechanic :D
Yet you still think they are good cars....:wtf:
Novasport
02-11-08, 09:20 PM
Might be wrong but anyone even considered another Vauxhall engine which would fit the bill?
What about a 2.2 out of an Astra/Zaf/Veccy/VX220? They are 2.2, have the inlet side on the front afaik and are an ally block. Only weak point is the timing chain.
Also the latest BTCC engines are based on the 2.2 engine prob for the very reasons above, they must destroke it to get the correct CC.
And in the US they get HUGE results from the GM 2.2 engines.
And in the US they get HUGE results from the GM 2.2 engines.
Yeah I've heard a lot of good things about the 2.2!
all im gonna say is everyone ripped a certain cossy nova then were made to look like fools.
all im gonna say is everyone ripped a certain cossy nova then were made to look like fools.
I dont think posting that he's selling his nova as he's jobless, then saying he's on 40k a year is helping his cause lol
I dont think posting that he's selling his nova as he's jobless, then saying he's on 40k a year is helping his cause lol
LMAO
Epic FAIL!
he was unemployed in june!! who says he hasnt got a job since
Novasport
02-11-08, 10:44 PM
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Anyone had a go at putting a Z22SE in a Nova? Would make an awesome transplant with forward facing throttle bodies or carbs!
Alternator on the front which would help with chassis leg clearance, exhaust might be a sticking point at the back though!
he was unemployed in june!! who says he hasnt got a job since
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for sale thread mate want 600 for it http://www.pngclub.com/forum/showthread.php?t=100378
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http://i19.ebayimg.com/07/i/001/15/02/c347_1.JPG
Anyone had a go at putting a Z22SE in a Nova? Would make an awesome transplant with forward facing throttle bodies or carbs!
Alternator on the front which would help with chassis leg clearance, exhaust might be a sticking point at the back though!
Seen one in a Corsa C, looked factory fit.
Guy has big plans for the engine but wanted to fit and get running, now believe it has been removed again and being rebuilt.
Rick Draper
02-11-08, 10:57 PM
all im gonna say is everyone ripped a certain cossy nova then were made to look like fools.
Does it drive straight?
Does it drive straight?
Theres a good chance it will drive!
ha ha you guys make me piss. when i originally posted the for sale ad i didnt have a job, i now tutor 16-19 year olds in motor vehicle engineering. been doing it for 5 months. its good to see the usual suspects are amongst the negative posters on this thread. if it aint a std redtop or let then you shoot people down. rick i stand by what i said before, id like to make a copy or whatever of your car, if i'd known yours was for sale i'd have bought it, sturge do some research before ripping people, read dates on posts, and stoo stop jumping on the band wagon, its not cool. coupe uk thanks man, i did think we were a community, i guess that went to $hit a long time ago. i asked at the beginnig about doing the head because if it was cheaper than 1.5k then i'd rather do that and spend the rest on other upgrades, the full lump was the other option. god there are so many narrow minded people on here it makes me pi$$! rick when people took the pi$$ out of you you did one to another forum, that shows how much your a part of the nova community. i guess when someone builds a ford or saab or vw powered nova your all gonna $hit yourselves and declare it the anti christ! so back onto topic, would you buy it at 1.5k, or would you buy another sbd or swindon lump thats guaranteed to be good? no snide remarks kids as were all meant to be grown ups here......:thumb:
i dont think you need to ask if anyone would buy it the answer is evident.
take it thats a no then as its gonna be fooked?
Have you even read this thread?
yes, as some one said, if its that cheap theres a reason. i dont want to buy it and spend another 3-4k rebuilding it! i'd rather buy a new built one. its a race engine so its beyond me rebuilding it. its been in storage since 1994, and was used for 2 seasons, would you buy it fella?
Its going to want a rebuild. But then any race engine you would want to rebuild anyway.
Surely your capable of this if you are lecturing on automotive engineering?
i have little experience of race motors so rather than balls it up i'd pay some one to rebuild it. as rick said get one person to build it not 6. plus i have a resto project on the go, this was just a query to find out what people thought. all i wanted was the best way to an excellent track spec nova no holds barred. thanks man youve been a big help. have some rep!
Depends what you want the car for.
track only, all out nutter car. simple as.
Rick Draper
03-11-08, 12:22 AM
Depends if its a short motor or ready to go. If its just a short motor you could well need to add £7k just in bits and fittings, probably far more.
track only, all out nutter car. simple as.
WTF have you given me neg rep for? Tool!
sorry bud thought id given good rep. thanks for the reply rick. i dont want to offend any one, just ask advice.
tbh if i got offered it for £1500, id take it, but then again id feel pretty confident building the motor. but id definately be getting parts from swindow if need them.
yeah fair enough you will probably have usual steel crank, rods, slipper pistons, dry sump etc. but headwise, aslong as the head its self was good, then if it needed buckets, shims etc, id be onto swindon for the parts(obv)
just get some pictures matey to see whats being offered. if as you have said its been in storage 14years, then **** me engine will be alomost new!
just get pictures n stop mucking about;).....if you wont have it...ill cum down with the cash lol
btw even if have to spend £5k on it, to get it fresh again its still mega cheap. my TB'd xe has just cost roughly £7.5k ish and ive done all the work myself!!
Swindon did tune engines in other guises other than the reverse head setup... eg they managed to haul 200bhp from a std SFI airboxed XE etc...
Still for £1.5K that would be a good engine as you'd have to spend that to get a std XE there on TB's etc.
The Z22SE (or L61 in the USA) is a great engine, simlar power to a std XE but with the toque of a 200bhp TB'd one lol.
Then add a few choice bits that are dirt cheap like Steel rods, Pistons, S/C, SAAB head and WOOOOSHHHHHH 350bhp on tap :D
Novasport
03-11-08, 01:49 PM
The Z22SE (or L61 in the USA) is a great engine, simlar power to a std XE but with the toque of a 200bhp TB'd one lol.
Then add a few choice bits that are dirt cheap like Steel rods, Pistons, S/C, SAAB head and WOOOOSHHHHHH 350bhp on tap :D
Which Saab head fits?
Look at Vocky's thread on Z22se.co.uk
http://www.z22se.co.uk/forum/viewtopic.php?f=69&t=10177
look i know what it is, the guy used to run an ex john cleland super tourer and is a family friend. hes been in motorsport for 30 years, and you think i'm a retard? err wrong. i ask for advice and people take the piss. oh well. to those who arnt a$$holes, what box and suspension and brakes would you run? money no object. i want to put it into a 4dr saloon and do a sort of track car touring car rep. i did think of space framing it but how legal is it?
Not being funny but if you've been offered the engine and have the cash and have the family friend in motorsport for the last 30 years why the **** are you asking?
stoo stop jumping on the band wagon, its not cool.
I dont jump on bandwagons treacle, im usually driving it!!
As per other replies,
1, Why are you asking if you have expert advice elsewhere
2, Nobodies shooting you down, just do your research, use the search, use google etc. a little patience and prior planning goes along long way
3, If you dont want to be rebuilding it, its probably not worth it
a 300bhp xe is going to need a tear down every 12months depending on how much use its getting.
hendrix
03-11-08, 03:19 PM
Which Saab head fits?
Saab Turbo I think.
Saab Turbo I think.
lol well that narrows it down.....lol
The head I have came from a Saab 9-5 1.8 turbo. There is the relevant info on z22se.co.uk if you search for SAAB and slindborg together.
ha ha you guys make me piss. when i originally posted the for sale ad i didnt have a job, i now tutor 16-19 year olds in motor vehicle engineering. been doing it for 5 months. its good to see the usual suspects are amongst the negative posters on this thread. if it aint a std redtop or let then you shoot people down. rick i stand by what i said before, id like to make a copy or whatever of your car, if i'd known yours was for sale i'd have bought it, sturge do some research before ripping people, read dates on posts, and stoo stop jumping on the band wagon, its not cool. coupe uk thanks man, i did think we were a community, i guess that went to $hit a long time ago. i asked at the beginnig about doing the head because if it was cheaper than 1.5k then i'd rather do that and spend the rest on other upgrades, the full lump was the other option. god there are so many narrow minded people on here it makes me pi$$! rick when people took the pi$$ out of you you did one to another forum, that shows how much your a part of the nova community. i guess when someone builds a ford or saab or vw powered nova your all gonna $hit yourselves and declare it the anti christ! so back onto topic, would you buy it at 1.5k, or would you buy another sbd or swindon lump thats guaranteed to be good? no snide remarks kids as were all meant to be grown ups here......:thumb:
I think you'll find I wasn't ripping you, just highlighting to Burgo why some people were. I may think you're either an idiot or talking out your backside, but I didn't once bring that up or criticise you myself. Do some research before jumping the gun ;)
mulletor
04-11-08, 06:11 PM
i think you lot are pathetic this guy has come on a vauxhall specific site and and he is asking a few questions and you lot are grilling him.
alot of people in motorsport just do it as a job and dont care about second hand parts or there values.so 1.5k would be a fair price.
i hope this guy has got this engine although it is funny watchin you lot going on 1.
i think you lot are pathetic this guy has come on a vauxhall specific site and and he is asking a few questions and you lot are grilling him.
alot of people in motorsport just do it as a job and dont care about second hand parts or there values.so 1.5k would be a fair price.
i hope this guy has got this engine although it is funny watchin you lot going on 1.
apart from the mud slinging, there have been a load of hugely informative comments.
If someone has an engine that hasn't been used for 14 years, & it is apparently a reverse head swindon race engine from a btcc car, then it is a remarkable find & for 1.5k sounds too good to be true.
I personally am interested to find out just how complete it is, cos it could easily cost 5k in bits to get it running, I am talking about ecu's, dry sump pumps, manifolds etc.
A couple of photos of the said engine would be fantastic & any self respecting nova enthusiast would probably go weak at the knees in the presence of such an engine.....
right been to the guys to have a look, the things in 2 boxes. one with the head, block in other. rocker is the cast one with swindon on it. had a look and some bits dont seem right ie no outlets for oil pipes, wet sump? etc then theres this:- http://i405.photobucket.com/albums/pp138/sloth_mk1_cav/DSC00173.jpg and this:-http://i405.photobucket.com/albums/pp138/sloth_mk1_cav/DSC00172.jpg
that piston looks just liked a std xe one i think. i guess thats why its so cheap. all there is is the short motor and the head no cams bodies or ancillaries. :(
Pistol Pete
04-11-08, 09:15 PM
Looks like the moonhead stomp has been done on those pistons and head to me!!
Rick Draper
04-11-08, 09:18 PM
STD XE piston that looks like.
thanks fellas. tbh i saw it and did one quick lol
saab engine it is then.
may i suggest you give these a call!
http://www.swindon-engines.com/design/index.html
t45_ste
04-11-08, 10:55 PM
Was the head reverse? Any more pics?
meritlover
05-11-08, 08:43 AM
looks like bad det on the squish area. nothing too serious, but im sure the top ring-lands will have taken a fair old pounding.
It was unlikely that it was a complete Swindon engine going that cheap but I was once offered the spare engine from this car for 4k
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v306/Jatec/DSC00183.jpg
A friend of mine owned 3 of the cars, 2 were sold complete with spares packages for approx 16k each and the 3rd was broken for spares, I helped him change the ge****t in it once which took all of 10 mins lol
Before anyone asks thew spares are long gone
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