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burgo
29-10-08, 11:28 AM
just so we dont mess up simons post


3dr = 2 doors and boot
5dr = 4 doors and boot

ive always said 3dr and 5dr aswell

imo a door is a means of entering or exiting a vehicle. now if you can get in and out of car via the boot on a standard saloon you must be some kind of magician.

Spudly
29-10-08, 12:01 PM
Imo either a hatch or loon is a two or four door as the way i see it, is its only a door if you use it to get in like youve said.

Pistol Pete
29-10-08, 12:05 PM
In terms of 'loons, i'd say 2dr or 4dr.

burgo
29-10-08, 12:09 PM
Imo either a hatch or loon is a two or four door as the way i see it, is its only a door if you use it to get in like youve said.no the hatchbacks are deffo 3 and 5 door. think of it as in the event of a weird emergency where you couldnt use the "doors" you could still use the boot to climb out of hence why its classed as a door

Spudly
29-10-08, 12:27 PM
Still sounds wrong really in my eyes (or should that be ears) ive had this dicussion with a few mates before and the way i see it, the hatch is a two door with a hatch-back or a tailgate, otherwise for example the 205GTi wouldnt have been the first ever hot hatch it would have been a hot door lol

It makes sense if you think about it but there are equal arguments either way its all down to personal preference tbh!

hendrix
29-10-08, 12:29 PM
3dr and 5 dr for hatch
2dr and 4 dr for loon.
End of.
lol

burgo
29-10-08, 12:32 PM
how about, im right! your wrong!! sounds like a fair argument to me

Jack
29-10-08, 12:33 PM
Still sounds wrong really in my eyes (or should that be ears) ive had this dicussion with a few mates before and the way i see it, the hatch is a two door with a hatch-back or a tailgate, otherwise for example the 205GTi wouldnt have been the first ever hot hatch it would have been a hot door lol

It makes sense if you think about it but there are equal arguments either way its all down to personal preference tbh!
That doesn't make sense... we're not talking about what constitutes a hatchback lol

I'm with Burgo. I'd say though if it has glass, its a "door". hence why liftback coupés are 3drs, whilst normal coupés are 2drs.

Spudly
29-10-08, 12:33 PM
Na im feeling argumentative lol

Jack
29-10-08, 12:38 PM
Dictionary definition of hatch:

2. an opening that serves as a doorway or window
Note use of "doorway" :p

hendrix
29-10-08, 12:40 PM
Spud, my nova and my astra both have two doors.
However
Nova = 3 door
Astra = 2 door
Capiche?

Pistol Pete
29-10-08, 12:47 PM
3dr and 5 dr for hatch
2dr and 4 dr for loon.
End of.
lol

+1

NovaGuy1400SRi
29-10-08, 12:57 PM
Still sounds wrong really in my eyes (or should that be ears) ive had this dicussion with a few mates before and the way i see it, the hatch is a two door with a hatch-back or a tailgate, otherwise for example the 205GTi wouldnt have been the first ever hot hatch it would have been a hot door lol

It makes sense if you think about it but there are equal arguments either way its all down to personal preference tbh!

The 205 GTI wasn't the first ever hot hatch, the mk1 Golf GTI was :p

hendrix
29-10-08, 01:07 PM
+1
have some rep lol

Pistol Pete
29-10-08, 01:08 PM
Merci!! lol

Welsh Dan
29-10-08, 01:48 PM
The 205 GTI wasn't the first ever hot hatch, the mk1 Golf GTI was :p

Rover SD1? The golf GTI and the SD1 were both launched in June 1976, but I don't know which days,

NovaGuy1400SRi
29-10-08, 01:56 PM
i wouldn't really call the SD1 a hot hatch though...

Spudly
29-10-08, 02:01 PM
Furry muff i fail at pretty much everything then dont i lol

burgo
29-10-08, 02:07 PM
well if your saying that all novas are 2 and 4 doors then the nova cant be classed as a hot hatch

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hot_hatch

Jack
29-10-08, 02:13 PM
I wouldn't class the nova as a hot hatch lol


Rover SD1? The golf GTI and the SD1 were both launched in June 1976, but I don't know which days,
November 1975, Chevette GL. Sporty bumpers and such!

Renault 5 Alpine also came before the Golf

Spudly
29-10-08, 02:22 PM
I wouldn't class the nova as a hot hatch lol


More a luke warm one tbh, ill admit defeat and sit on the naughty step for ten minutes now then:cry:

mowgli
29-10-08, 03:39 PM
surely the Scimitar was the first hot Hatch.....it invented the concept of a sporty hatchback.........

hendrix
29-10-08, 03:44 PM
wern't they 3 ltr beasts?

hendrix
29-10-08, 03:45 PM
made by reliant iirc

Jack
29-10-08, 03:45 PM
Scimitar was a Coupé originally, then an "Estate" from '68.

Aston Martin DB2 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aston_Martin_DB2/4) was apparently a hatchback, does that count? lol

Mike
29-10-08, 04:35 PM
E Type Jag?

Cle
29-10-08, 04:59 PM
I see what u mean about Saloons being 2drs and hatchbacks being 3drs. its just what people up here say.

sorry i apologise :(

burgo
29-10-08, 10:42 PM
not getting at you mate just explaining the differences