Are times Changing?

[Andy_L]

In relation to the Nova scene??

It got me thinking with the posts about Corsakids new project, some people (myself included) thought the car was too good to modify, others didn't and made the very valid point about Keith Robinson's build. A Nova turbo built from a similarly mint shell.

I think it has moved and people are now starting to appreciate the OE models - perhaps realising there aren't that many left and they are getting rarer :confused:.

The loon has suddenly become popular, all that's left now is the 5 door hatch to become wanted but I'm on my own their at the moment. :cry:

I'm not criticising anybody, or saying they are doing the wrong thing, each to their own, otherwsie things would be very dull.

Other people's thoughts?
:thumb:

[Shaun_O'Donnell]

I agree, just been flicking through some early TV's and there are more kitted Novas than standard looking ones. Personally I've always disliked kitted cars and it's nice to see so many original clean looking Novas being created. But lets face it the Nova is nothing special in the world or motoring and building an awesome car from a mint basemodel should not really be criticised in my opinion. Had it been done to something more special like a sport or early SR, yeah then maybe.

[Rich]

Unless its a mint origional sr/gte/gsi/sport i dont see why its bad using a mint shell. End of the day its only a nova, they are rare to find in top condtion but theres nothing interesting about the base models, they drive horrible and are slow as ****. Why use rotters when a mint one can be used, saves the non-stop chasing rust

[Timmy]

i think with modded car or even car club you make your car your own, be it a kit or small details or just keeping it standerd but even "standerd" one have there own unic touches.but true i think the sence is change now loons and base modle cars are being looked after and restored, the pop up of spiders as well is something still new to my slef

[AlexW]

I like the stuble modded nova's, Full GTE/GSI kit has got a bit boring of late IMO, But yet ive just brought a gsi front bumper for my standard nova!

[thedjse]

My loon was standard and i enjoyedf at first i got laughed at but then i earnt respect i loved that car and still do (even tho i sold it)

My project car is a 1.2 with modifcations eventually a 1.6 but i cant wait to get it driving and an MOT on it

I think theres 2 things here

I owned a standard nova and loved it

I own a modified nova and love it

I dont know what it is but i love novas standard modified (sometimes) each to there own IMO

[MC]

I've modded my 1.0 Merit as lets face it, they are poo as standard. I have however kept the interior unchanged and have used genuine GM parts such as Astra GTE wheels and have purchased an unpainted GSI front bumper. I don't want it to shout out 'MODIFIED'. Despite what I've done and how fast it is, I would gladly swap it for a mk1 SR or GTE and leave that standard. They are beutiful and I would love ity and hug it and kiss it an pet it and....

My dream Nova is a red GTE unmodified with steel rims and standard wheel trims.

[Count Vaux Alot]

In relation to the Nova scene??

It got me thinking with the posts about Corsakids new project, some people (myself included) thought the car was too good to modify, others didn't and made the very valid point about Keith Robinson's build. A Nova turbo built from a similarly mint shell.

I think it has moved and people are now starting to appreciate the OE models - perhaps realising there aren't that many left and they are getting rarer :confused:.

The loon has suddenly become popular, all that's left now is the 5 door hatch to become wanted but I'm on my own their at the moment. :cry:

I'm not criticising anybody, or saying they are doing the wrong thing, each to their own, otherwsie things would be very dull.

Other people's thoughts?
:thumb:

I completely agree but i wouldn't say you were 'on your own at the moment' 5 doors are cool :D

Clean original novas are the way forward IMO what ever style you go for!

[Pistol Pete]

Or is it maybe that some of us who have been around the Nova scene for a while are starting to appreciate an unmodified clean and standard example?!Where as maybe a few years back, if someone posted up pics of their standard clean 1.2, the replies would have been, get some GTE/GSi bumpers on there and some Speedlines and your on to a winner!! Yes that applies now, but a standard car is appreciated more now.

[areofall]

Any mint cars are getting very rare now, even most of all the basic models probably ended up with mod's, I think peope will regret modding mint low milage examples later on in the game, my own example is a 26k FVSH 3dr merit pls 1.4i and I'm stuck between a rock and a hard place what to do with it, keep it as it as or build what I've always wanted ?????:confused: Though the only route to follow is Keith's road, i feel, if I change the colour of mine, I'm getting it dipped and coated too.

[Jack]

Thing is, everything that can be done to a Nova has been done. So people are just looking to keep things tidy and clean instead of trying to be different.

And anyway saloons have always been the best :p

[Count Vaux Alot]

And anyway saloons have always been the best :p

Strange to hear that from you lol lol

[burgo]

In relation to the Nova scene??

It got me thinking with the posts about Corsakids new project, some people (myself included) thought the car was too good to modify, others didn't and made the very valid point about Keith Robinson's build. A Nova turbo built from a similarly mint shell.

I think it has moved and people are now starting to appreciate the OE models - perhaps realising there aren't that many left and they are getting rarer :confused:.

The loon has suddenly become popular, all that's left now is the 5 door hatch to become wanted but I'm on my own their at the moment. :cry:

I'm not criticising anybody, or saying they are doing the wrong thing, each to their own, otherwsie things would be very dull.

Other people's thoughts?
:thumb:i agree about corsakids but didnt want to say as i thought i was the only one

[Ben]

Put it in relation to other Marques,

Are people keeping mint 1.6GL 3dr Sierra's standard no there reshelling cossie's.

Are people keeping 3dr MK1 Escorts standard, no they build Mexico or RS2000 reps.

base models are just that BASE, never will be as desirable as a decent model.

[Ben]

i agree about corsakids but didnt want to say as i thought i was the only one

Theres a list of people who have made the comment on his thread so youd never be alone.

And i will make the same comment here that i made there, he is not fitting a Kingdom bodykit, how come when some more founded members do it they all get you sticking there tounges up there ass's saying how great it is/ will be but because Gary isnt that well known on here your all slating him.

There are other MINT shells in the projects that people have cut the floor out to make RWD and Cossie powered, wheres the slating, keep it consistent eh!

[burgo]

i think you will find i very rarely stick my tongue up peoples bums. stu normally has to ask very nicely to receive this and i am hardly slating him. i just think its a shame that he chose a car that has had alot of time spent on it making it mint in standard form when as you say there are plenty more mint shells about

[JohnNI]

I would hate to see if there were no clean, original cars left. I don't see any sense in ripping apart a good genuine car, base model or not for an engine. There are half decent novas out there that are right for that. A good mint example of a nova that needs no paintwork to be ripped apart for welding and filler is beyond me. When novas really are getting few and far between it will be nice to see a clean example that is genuine and never had any work done to it. I don't knock anyone for fitting an XE/LET in a mint nova, but I just hope there is some out there that will preserve them.

[walshc]

At the end of the day, novas are novas, theyre not special.
Also cars are cars, theyre not really THAT important

I think, that people take their hobbie too seriously and become far too attached, then judge others and their actions based on their own feelings for that hobbie
Maybe the people who genuinely hate seeing cars molested should take a step back and realise its not a matter of life and death or life long pain, so they shouldnt really actually care.....

[ade]

I think that the more "long term" nova enthusiasts are "growing up" and simply outgrowing the heavily modded scene in favour for the more sedate restoration.

Most of us have at some point been in the "white trainers and tracksuit phase" - modding their cars with all the sticky on bits, mad engine builds and wot not.

We've now gone beyond that phase and are entering into the "pipe and slippers phase" - more relaxed - keeping it simple, Euro style perhaps or a simple restoration.

As mentioned above its getting hard to find a decent shell and you dont see many standard novas floating about.

I'm of the opinion that modded is good but standard/sublte is (at present) much better

[Rexy]

At the end of the day, novas are novas, theyre not special.
Also cars are cars, theyre not really THAT important

I think, that people take their hobbie too seriously and become far too attached, then judge others and their actions based on their own feelings for that hobbie
Maybe the people who genuinely hate seeing cars molested should take a step back and realise its not a matter of life and death or life long pain, so they shouldnt really actually care.....

my thoughts exactly they are just novas and far from desirable tbh they are just good funn to dick about with and dead easy to work on.

Its just metal and plastic at the end of it all I love messing about and building stuff I dont actually enjoy driving them anymore lol. Im bored of mine now cas i cant think of much else to do hence why im going to change the colour again and get maybe start again with it.. It keeps me on my toes and stops me from selling it...

But yeah, i think people do get farrrrr too involoved with there cars, they should be good funn and bring you enjoyment and lots of smiles, Once they stop doing that then they should be ****ed off lol, Its just a Rather expensive and large hobby Have funn with it. . .

[Andy_L]

There are other MINT shells in the projects that people have cut the floor out to make RWD and Cossie powered, wheres the slating, keep it consistent eh!

TBH I think if Keith Robinson was starting his project today I'd be of the same opinion that it's too good to break but go back 12-18 months and I had a different opinion.

P.S. I wasn't trying to pick on Corsakids build at all, merely making a comment about the scene in general. :thumb:

[Prey]

Most people I know seem to still think novas are ****e ha ha. However you dont see many about now and even less that are clean (both in the 'not knackered' and the 'nicely done' sense of the word) - so maybe it will get some form of classic cool status in the future.

As for using minters as bases - why not - I would, always easier to start with a good one! I dont think many people will lose sleep over it unless they end up being worth silly money.

[craig green]

What about all the poor Astra GTE's & cav GSi's etc that have given up their engines for rotten Nova owners.

It happens within every marque & scene of car. If you are gonna get eary eyed over a bodyshell with no rot then for gods sake don't contemplate the thousands of decent SR's & GTE's etc that all got killed when the Novas popularity was 1st at its height at the end of the nineties when every chav-idiot & his mate wanted a phatt Nova.

Thank god those days are behind us! Most Nova owners are now enthusiasts with the cars best intentions in mind.

[pikey1986]

i completely agree, most of my work mates take the piss out of me cause ive just bought one, they still seem to think that youve got to be a burrbery clad fool to own one.

[Ernie]

Well if any body would like to take on the challenge of saving my latest find.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v617/chunny01/nova%20antibis/Antbisnova001.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v617/chunny01/nova%20antibis/Antbisnova002.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v617/chunny01/nova%20antibis/Antbisnova009.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v617/chunny01/nova%20antibis/Antbisnova010.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v617/chunny01/nova%20antibis/Antbisnova007.jpg
Pm before i break it to get it out the way.
It would be a shame to see a none mint nova antibis going to the breakers as a shell.

[craig green]

i completely agree, most of my work mates take the piss out of me cause ive just bought one, they still seem to think that youve got to be a burrbery clad fool to own one.

I take a lot of pleasure in proving the opposite. I always have done.

For every 10 chavved up Novas, theres a well modded one. :thumb:

[craig green]

ERN. What s the usual suspect areas like?

Chassis legs, boot floor, battery tray etc.

[dj_wudgey]

I agree, just been flicking through some early TV's and there are more kitted Novas than standard looking ones. Personally I've always disliked kitted cars and it's nice to see so many original clean looking Novas being created. But lets face it the Nova is nothing special in the world or motoring and building an awesome car from a mint basemodel should not really be criticised in my opinion. Had it been done to something more special like a sport or early SR, yeah then maybe.

i agree with you mate mod the hell out of the base modles but leave sr's gte and the rest!!!!!!

[Ernie]

ERN. What s the usual suspect areas like?

Chassis legs, boot floor, battery tray etc.
Hi craig.
I have'nt really had chance to have a good look round as just got in from picking it up.
If you know how to weld it dont look that much.
Arches are gone in the usual place's tho.
I will try and get some better pic's once had a dig around it.
Back on topic.

[ade]

lol I'd have it and restore it but my missus would remove my testicles and feed them to my through my anus if I even looked at abnother nova!
Loved the old MK1 semi slowplough look - Antibes restoration - perhaps with a sport spin on it! It's got the right front bumper...

[Shaun_O'Donnell]

lol I'd have it and restore it but my missus would remove my testicles and feed them to my through my anus if I even looked at abnother nova!
Loved the old MK1 semi slowplough look - Antibes restoration - perhaps with a sport spin on it! It's got the right front bumper...

Very graphic Ade, cheers. lol

[Dec16v]

I think good, clean base models are becoming so rare now that people are starting to appreciate them in their standard form. 5-10 years ago people would think nothing of ripping out a brown Mk1 interior and binning it, now they're fetching top money on eBay.... no wonder, we all forgot how good they look!!!!


http://i98.photobucket.com/albums/l252/Declan1979/S7002146.jpg

[craig green]

People always want what they can't have (read can't have as rare or hard to find)

SR's are rather sought after now as are snowplough bumper extensions & door vinyl. How many SR's had there identity removed by dreamers back in the day? Most of them!

[Count Vaux Alot]

I think good, clean base models are becoming so rare now that people are starting to appreciate them in their standard form. 5-10 years ago people would think nothing of ripping out a brown Mk1 interior and binning it, now they're fetching top money on eBay.... no wonder, we all forgot how good they look!!!!


http://i98.photobucket.com/albums/l252/Declan1979/S7002146.jpg

So true (dribble dribble!)

[Count Vaux Alot]

People always want what they can't have (read can't have as rare or hard to find)

SR's are rather sought after now as are snowplough bumper extensions & door vinyl. How many SR's had there identity removed by dreamers back in the day? Most of them!

I would also agree craig!

[craig green]

Its not that I care much for clean shells tbh, its the fact that the vinyl, interior trims & other details from the nicer models can no longer be found. So its the surviving cars that have to uphold any memories etc of those particular models.

[Andy]

At the end of the day though,everybody is entitled to do whatever they want to their car as they have payed for it,if people dont agree with it-so fukkin what.You will find most folk on here build/modify their cars to suit their own taste and not to "show off" Them days are gone.

[craig green]

Just a shame to see minters fall into the wrong hands though. However that is more directed at people I see/know as opposed to anyone on here.

I remember way back before I could afford a nice Nova, I'd see lads around here getting hold of late mk1 1.4 SR's or mk2 SR's etc & just run them into the ground or ditch the bumpers for Abyss fibreglass stuff, or grind back perfect arches to fit on some horrible wheels that didnt suit the car.

Just a shame.

[Andy]

It is a shame i agree,but no point getting depressed over it.Thats borderline obsession lol I mean you see all these threads about Novas on telly,Novas on holiday abroad,i mean for fukks sake-dont people have anything better to do with their time?! Do they really mean that much in their lifes? I love them but at the same time couldnt care less if they all got recalled by Vauxhall to get destroyed.I would still get a good nights sleep lol

[craig green]

Hell I dont lose any sleep, yet you have to remember that some younguns dont realise that Novas were sold abroad, or that 12 years ago I too lusted over any Nova so long as it wasnt the rusty, B reg, leaf green, toss mobile I was lumbered with as a first car.

They are rarer than ever, only getting moreso & its mostly just the users on this site that give a sh*t about Novas.

[krobinson]

I would never get upset over a base model being turned into something different.

I dont like to see the higher model's being modifyed though.

I like to think my car is a good example of the right thing to do with a mint shell. If i'd sold it to someone else it could have been painted with a brush and running 18's.

I'll use Ben's example too. Mk1 and Mk2 escort base shell's get ripped apart and used in rallying, or to make replica's of the more desireable models. I'd rather look at an immaculate replica Nova sport than an Immaculate base model.

That said, cormac's red mk1 (which I have to say is the best condition Nova i've ever saw) Is porn.

[Dec16v]

Cormacs is exceptional, however I can't see the preservation of 1.0l, 1.2 base models catching on. The special editions (Sports, Spiders, Sprints, early SR's etc) will always be sought after and may one day become collectible? However we're talking Nova's here, not Shelby GT500's!!

Dec

[areofall]

I think all models are on the up price wise, look at base model mk2 escorts 2 dr's what they make. If cars are done up right it adds value but you'll probably never get the money back on anything you do to a car.