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game1
15-09-08, 08:42 PM
Hi :D

Thought i'd start a thread on my Nova :D i've been on the lookout for a high spec Nova for a few months now and am pleased to say I now own one.

This is the car and it's current spec:-

http://i82.photobucket.com/albums/j247/MATTYGREEN/nova9.jpg


http://i82.photobucket.com/albums/j247/MATTYGREEN/nova8.jpg

http://i82.photobucket.com/albums/j247/MATTYGREEN/nova5.jpg

http://i82.photobucket.com/albums/j247/MATTYGREEN/nova4-1.jpg


http://i82.photobucket.com/albums/j247/MATTYGREEN/nova3.jpg


Engine:

1998 2 Litre 16v C20LET,Ported and polished Coscast cylinder head, ARP head stud kit, ARP rod bolts, Dual layered steel head gasket, FSE fuel pressure regulator and gauge, Nortec tubular manifold, Turbosmart external racing wastegate, Garrett GT28/25RS Hybrid turbo built by Owen Developments, EDS phase 3 software, Enlarged top-hat, Large front mount intercooler, 2.5" hard pipe kit, Bailey header tank, Uprated engine mounts, Seam welded engine bay with Harry Hockley strengthening kit, Full Roose/Samco silicone hose kit, XE inlet cam, 8.5mm Magnecor leads, NGK iridium plugs, Uprated fuel pump, Custom side exit exhaust.


Transmission:

F28 6 speed gearbox, Quaife differential, XE lightened flywheel, Uprated clutch, Motorsport driveshafts and hubs.

Suspension:

Spax coilovers, Uprated front + rear springs, Black Powerflex bushes, Rose jointed track rod ends, Quaife quick rack, Spherical top mounts, Uprated front + rear anti-roll bars, Front + rear strut braces.

Brakes:

4 pot Willwood callipers all round, Mintex pads, 280mm front discs, Rear disc conversion, Braided brake lines, Single rear brake line with in-car adjustable brake bias.

Wheels:

16" Speeline alesio1s with Toyo TS1 195/45/16.


Interior:

SPA designs speedo, Digital dash, Mk2 dash, 6 point rollcage with removable door bars, Snap off steering wheel, Cobra monaco bucket seats, Battery in box moved to spare wheel well, Carbon Fibre front and rear door cards, Autometer gauges (oil temp,oil pressure,boost,air/fuel).

Exterior:

Full respray in Seat yellow, New front + rear GSI bumpers, Carbon fibre bonnet with lockable Aero catches.



It's running 22psi/1.5bar and made 310bhp & 340lb-ft. I only collected it last night and loved every second of the 165 mile trip home. It's now in a local bodyshop having the rear seat brackets removed (6 off) and the whole of the inside of the floor pan re-painted. It's also have the side seals re-painted and some gsi skirts fitted and a general tidy up on the paintwork. I've also got some new wheels and tyres coming and a perspex window kit to fit. Oh and i've also removed the graphics too :D

Will keep pics and work in progress going as i've a few plans for the car. :thumb:

hagger
15-09-08, 08:47 PM
ahh you bought that one, looks good, i would of had it if i had the cash. look forward to seeing progress on it.

AlexW
15-09-08, 08:48 PM
This was posted here and linked to PH. Its a very nice nova. Good luck with it.

brainsnova
15-09-08, 08:49 PM
thats a very looking car mate :thumb:

chrisnovaturbo
15-09-08, 08:50 PM
how long have you had it?

game1
15-09-08, 08:52 PM
:D thanks

Collected it yesterday afternoon.

Adam
15-09-08, 09:29 PM
Very very nice.

Good move on removing the stickers/vinyl too

Benn
15-09-08, 09:36 PM
Tis a very nice, deffo remove the stickers only bit i didnt like that jason did.

game1
19-09-08, 07:37 PM
:D car is being painted tomorrow, The inside is being done 1st then the sills and having some gsi skits fitted. A few pics of how it looked today :D

http://i82.photobucket.com/albums/j247/MATTYGREEN/DSC02822.jpg

http://i82.photobucket.com/albums/j247/MATTYGREEN/DSC02823.jpg

http://i82.photobucket.com/albums/j247/MATTYGREEN/DSC02824.jpg

http://i82.photobucket.com/albums/j247/MATTYGREEN/DSC02825.jpg

http://i82.photobucket.com/albums/j247/MATTYGREEN/DSC02826.jpg

http://i82.photobucket.com/albums/j247/MATTYGREEN/DSC02821.jpg

http://i82.photobucket.com/albums/j247/MATTYGREEN/DSC02820.jpg

stevie-p
19-09-08, 07:40 PM
very nice great one

RSTChris
19-09-08, 07:43 PM
Very nice Nova, ill be keeping an eye on this thread!

ck
26-09-08, 04:26 PM
are you aiming for 350+hp on standard rods?

has the cage been fitted properly? just looks like it has not had any spreader plates welded into the shell before the cage bolts in? if it hasnt you want to do this before painting the inside.

awesome car anyhow mate :D

RJM25R
26-09-08, 06:57 PM
I quote

"ARP head stud kit, ARP rod bolts, Dual layered steel head gasket" and that's ALL the internal mods?

Wow! Thats SOME power!

GTE999
27-09-08, 01:09 AM
lovely car mate.

C14se
27-09-08, 01:12 AM
nice let mate

game1
29-09-08, 12:19 PM
Car has standard rods and crank, everything else has been uprated including pistions :D Are the standard rods, really a problem at this sort of power :confused: cars is running 323bhp

http://www.pngclub.com/forum/showthread.php?t=105417

Previous owner said they are good for 400bhp :confused:

Will get round to taking some pics soon as car is now painted, new wheels, etc :D

burgo
29-09-08, 05:00 PM
they probably will take 400 bhp for a while but for the sake of £500 is it worth risking the engine

game1
29-09-08, 05:17 PM
Not planning on running 400bhp, 330-350bhp is more than enough for me and that will only be now and then as when I have a boost controller fitted I plan to run two boost settings:- 1bar (normal use) and 1.4/1.5bar (when needed) I thought high revs are what kills rods and car wont be reving any higher than factory.

burgo
29-09-08, 05:18 PM
its is normally revs yes but when you've got as much torque as you have then i would think about upgrading

game1
29-09-08, 05:35 PM
O.k will have to put some on my christmas list then :D any ideas as to who sells them at a good price :confused:

burgo
29-09-08, 05:38 PM
ill have a word with someone and let you know

game1
12-10-08, 07:12 PM
:D a few pics of how the car looks now :D

http://i82.photobucket.com/albums/j247/MATTYGREEN/DSC02860.jpg

http://i82.photobucket.com/albums/j247/MATTYGREEN/DSC02862.jpg

http://i82.photobucket.com/albums/j247/MATTYGREEN/DSC02864.jpg

http://i82.photobucket.com/albums/j247/MATTYGREEN/DSC02863.jpg


side exit exhaust :cool:

http://i82.photobucket.com/albums/j247/MATTYGREEN/DSC02857.jpg


Have an equal length shaft from Chris Astley that's being fitted next weekend also plan on fitted laguna splitter soon - hope you all like :thumb:

vaughanmc
12-10-08, 07:33 PM
Looks minted mate :)

adam c
12-10-08, 07:39 PM
looks very clean and looks loads better without all the stickers on!:cool: looking side exit!is it loud?

sulphur
12-10-08, 07:50 PM
I like that colour. As said, looks better without the stickers. Bet that side exit isn't very speed bump friendly.

corsakid
12-10-08, 07:53 PM
looks lovely now mate!

The Simps
12-10-08, 10:00 PM
Looks mean as hell mate :cool:

You'll be pleased once you've fitted the shaft mate I promise!

game1
12-10-08, 10:22 PM
:D cheers for the comments. Side exit isn't too noisy to be honest and isn't a problem with speed bumps either - suprisingly.

Simps - hope your right mate. Checked the tyre pressures today and may sound daft, but had 36 and 33 in fronts and 33 in both rears - bloody tyre fitters :roll: have now put 27 in front and 29 in rear and even that has made a difference. Once shaft is in will also be having the tracking checked too and may even lower the front a little more?

Adam_J
13-10-08, 06:39 PM
quality like the colour!:D

*Dave*
13-10-08, 06:50 PM
im sooooooooooo jelous !!

you seem to have a fair bit of cash lol

c20xefish
13-10-08, 06:50 PM
looks awsum, great job :D

Dave.
13-10-08, 06:53 PM
looks like youve got some nasty overspray in the n/s/r arch there, paint inside black will look 100x better

overall i think this cars stinning, loving the black bonnet, suits it well :thumb:

burgo
13-10-08, 08:05 PM
if you are going to lower it more do it before the tracking. also carnie at northwest tyres is my recommendation

game1
13-10-08, 09:51 PM
Overspray is from when I just had the seals re-done. Will be painting overspray bits black very soon and undersealing the car over the winter.

Mate of mine works for ford in Market Harborough, he's fitting the shaft for me, lowering the front end a tad, fitting splitter and then checking tracking :thumb:

game1
25-10-08, 11:18 AM
Little update :D

Chris Astley equal shaft is now fitted, wow..... what a difference it's made :cool: would say it's made about a 60% improvement on before and can almost drive it in a straight line now, lol

Have also sorted a few squeaks and rattles from inside the car. Overspray has now gone and tracking checked. Next on the list is an avcr boost controller. Going to Pod on 2nd Nov and see what times I can run, hoping for low 13's :confused:

krobinson
25-10-08, 11:24 AM
Car is stunning, really like that! You've hugely improved it from the previous owner.

With a stripped out nova running over 300bhp you should be in the 12's not 13's at the pod.

I think Mark Beeson ran low 13's on phase 2 with a full interior.

Edit: Have you a diff in the box?

Keith

game1
25-10-08, 11:44 AM
Car is stunning, really like that! You've hugely improved it from the previous owner.

With a stripped out nova running over 300bhp you should be in the 12's not 13's at the pod.

I think Mark Beeson ran low 13's on phase 2 with a full interior.

Edit: Have you a diff in the box?

Keith


Thanks :D

Yes, it has a quaife diff in it. It still struggles to put the power down, spins still in 4th with little effort. That's why I was thinking of around low 13's :confused:

Plan is to fit an avcr as from what I understand the boost levels can be set according to your speed. So plan is to run something like 1bar until 60mph to help keep grip, then have the boost rising up to 1.5bar once car has grip.

Adam
25-10-08, 11:47 AM
You should run 13s all day long.
Maybe high 12s if you get the launch right

corsakid
25-10-08, 11:51 AM
awesome car, i 'd say with practice 12's should be easily achievable!

Benn
26-10-08, 12:02 PM
Get good tyres all round will help.

game1
26-10-08, 01:26 PM
It's got Federal ss595rs trackday tyres on it :D

http://i82.photobucket.com/albums/j247/MATTYGREEN/10772-10858-main-federal_595rs_semi.jpg

Benn
26-10-08, 02:19 PM
Ah nice.

The Simps
26-10-08, 03:05 PM
Chris Astley equal shaft is now fitted, wow..... what a difference it's made :cool: would say it's made about a 60% improvement on before and can almost drive it in a straight line now, lol



Told you it was worth doing :D :cool:

When you consider its the same price to buy the equal shafts new as buying the normal big block shafts new it seems silly not to do it for the sake of sourcing the fixed shaft. I'm fitting it to my XE build even tho really it doesn't need it but every bit helps.

game1
26-10-08, 05:59 PM
Told you it was worth doing :D :cool:

When you consider its the same price to buy the equal shafts new as buying the normal big block shafts new it seems silly not to do it for the sake of sourcing the fixed shaft. I'm fitting it to my XE build even tho really it doesn't need it but every bit helps.

:D I know, doesn't make sense to me either :confused: why the previous owner didn't fit one to the car when he bought the motorsport shafts :roll: The fixed shaft cost me £32 delivered and also had a drive shaft attached to it. Now have a drivers side motorsport shaft surpless, but I guess it's not worth alot, if anything :confused:

krobinson
26-10-08, 06:14 PM
When you consider its the same price to buy the equal shafts new as buying the normal big block shafts new it seems silly not to do it for the sake of sourcing the fixed shaft. I'm fitting it to my XE build even tho really it doesn't need it but every bit helps.

The thing is, it's only really being a well known mod for the last year or so. IIRC, Mark Beeson got the shaft custom made and set up a group buy on migweb, thats where I got mine.

Then Chris Astley made the shaft available and now everyone is seeing it as the better option.

I've been on the forums 8-10 years and I'd never heard it discussed before then :)

Keith

The Simps
26-10-08, 07:22 PM
I suppose that is true keith.

Didn't JonnyA have an equal shaft setup on his old white nova turbo?

krobinson
26-10-08, 07:53 PM
I suppose that is true keith.

Didn't JonnyA have an equal shaft setup on his old white nova turbo?

No idea mate, I'd recommend it to anyone, infact a friend of mine is getting one ASAP for his XE Nova.

Equal length is the future :thumb: lmao

game1
01-11-08, 07:21 PM
Had the car back on the rollers yesterday and had the boost turned down. It's now running 18psi - 1.25bar and is running 310bhp - 313lb-ft with 256bhp @ wheels. Was fed up of it spinning the wheels all the time and not being able to drive it hard. It now drives much better and am able to floor the accelerator from 4th upwards rather than having feather it :D Also didn't want the car overboosting with the cold weather with only running a bleed valve. I will however be putting the boost back up once i've had an avcr fitted.

corsakid
01-11-08, 08:07 PM
excellent mate :)

im fitting the let into my nova this week hopefully be up with gordon for mapping and setting up the apexi in december

game1
01-11-08, 09:23 PM
excellent mate :)

im fitting the let into my nova this week hopefully be up with gordon for mapping and setting up the apexi in december

I spoke to Gordon whilst I was there and told him about your build. Be sure to let me know when you take it there as i'd be interested in popping over to have a look, looking forward to seeing the results - hope all goes well when you put it together :thumb:

Benn
02-11-08, 12:06 PM
Glad you're enjoying the car dude... Making good power too.

Rickyb
02-11-08, 12:43 PM
i love the colour of this.
is it still goin to pod today if so dont forget to let us all know how it did.

Martin
02-11-08, 01:26 PM
looks stuning, cant wait to here the results

bennzy
02-11-08, 03:02 PM
what rollers u go on

corsakid
02-11-08, 03:13 PM
streetracers in leicester they have maha 4x4 rolling road

game1
02-11-08, 09:15 PM
:roll: Pod today was a waste of time, got there at 10.45am as I only live about 15mins away. Left home and it had just stopped raining. Went there with a few mates (gtir, mondeo st, megane 225) and track wasn't dry until 3.30pm. About 10 cars got to run before they closed it down as the track was still to wet/damp and was unsafe to use. So..... roll on 2009 :D Car will be cleaned next week then garaged until feb/2009 and see what happens then :thumb:

Rickyb
02-11-08, 10:02 PM
thats a real shame mate better look next time.

game1
03-11-08, 11:38 AM
:D here's the graph from the other day.


http://i82.photobucket.com/albums/j247/MATTYGREEN/nova12bar.jpg

turbojolt
03-11-08, 01:53 PM
you luck git thats one hell off a car

small-block
04-11-08, 06:56 PM
now fuk me thats nice!!

corsakid
04-11-08, 07:14 PM
good power:)

game1
26-11-08, 07:46 PM
Day off work today, so took car to parents to give it a clean and put it away until 2009.

http://i82.photobucket.com/albums/j247/MATTYGREEN/DSC02932.jpg

http://i82.photobucket.com/albums/j247/MATTYGREEN/DSC02927.jpg

http://i82.photobucket.com/albums/j247/MATTYGREEN/DSC02928.jpg

http://i82.photobucket.com/albums/j247/MATTYGREEN/DSC02926.jpg

http://i82.photobucket.com/albums/j247/MATTYGREEN/DSC02925.jpg

http://i82.photobucket.com/albums/j247/MATTYGREEN/DSC02930.jpg

http://i82.photobucket.com/albums/j247/MATTYGREEN/DSC02923.jpg

http://i82.photobucket.com/albums/j247/MATTYGREEN/DSC02924.jpg

http://i82.photobucket.com/albums/j247/MATTYGREEN/DSC02929.jpg

http://i82.photobucket.com/albums/j247/MATTYGREEN/DSC02931.jpg

http://i82.photobucket.com/albums/j247/MATTYGREEN/DSC02934.jpg


The cars new home until March next year - Dads spare garage.

http://i82.photobucket.com/albums/j247/MATTYGREEN/DSC02933.jpg

http://i82.photobucket.com/albums/j247/MATTYGREEN/DSC02936.jpg

http://i82.photobucket.com/albums/j247/MATTYGREEN/DSC02937.jpg

http://i82.photobucket.com/albums/j247/MATTYGREEN/DSC02938.jpg

vaughanmc
26-11-08, 07:51 PM
Looks awsome mate, will it be at any shows next year ?

Benn
26-11-08, 07:52 PM
Clean? You forgot the engine bay... And why do you put it away?
I would remove the cover everyso often to let the car breath.

game1
26-11-08, 08:01 PM
Yeah will be at a few shows next year :thumb:

It's clean on the outside, will be doing the engine bay over the winter - clean up and changing a few hoses and clips, etc... just to tart it up a little. It's not a show car - not into that, just want it to look tidy and track it :thumb:

Will be starting it every other week, so wont be a problem.

corsakid
26-11-08, 08:07 PM
love this car :D

Plug
26-11-08, 08:29 PM
looks mint and an amazin colour nice buy

game1
10-12-08, 01:44 PM
Managed to buy an AVCR in black at a good price and have bought a few other little bits too.

http://i82.photobucket.com/albums/j247/MATTYGREEN/DSC03022.jpg

http://i82.photobucket.com/albums/j247/MATTYGREEN/DSC03023.jpg

http://i82.photobucket.com/albums/j247/MATTYGREEN/DSC03026.jpg

http://i82.photobucket.com/albums/j247/MATTYGREEN/DSC03027.jpg


Have also removed the header tank and front mount pipe work as i'm having them powdercoated matt black. Also having some metal mats done at the same time.

novaowner999
10-12-08, 02:05 PM
nice car man

twistysnovagte
10-12-08, 02:55 PM
a total beast of a car,bet nothing much catching you in that too Lol,i think the styling to the car is also spot on, wouldnt change anything.

EUROTURBO
10-12-08, 03:31 PM
lovely car mate, colour also very nice...keep up the good work

discoinferno
10-12-08, 04:27 PM
love the steering wheel mate :)

i think you need a new passenger headlight :)

Fergal Quinn
10-12-08, 05:41 PM
really like wat u done wit this motor keep up the good work:thumb:

dj_wudgey
10-12-08, 05:45 PM
yea i love this motor bet its a right beast!!

game1
11-12-08, 10:01 AM
:D cheers for the comments.

Mazz
11-12-08, 10:19 AM
I do love this car! There's something about yellow (and orange) Nova's that works so well imo..

game1
30-12-08, 10:12 PM
Thought i'd post the pics that I have of car showing its transformation by the previous owner - was supposed to get a disc from him showing the cars full build (start to finish) but to this day i'm still waiting for it :mad:

Anyway....... thought i'd post what pics I have as Jason was never one for forums and thought i'd show the time/work that was put into the build.


http://i82.photobucket.com/albums/j247/MATTYGREEN/e5271.jpg

http://i82.photobucket.com/albums/j247/MATTYGREEN/e5272.jpg

http://i82.photobucket.com/albums/j247/MATTYGREEN/e5273.jpg

http://i82.photobucket.com/albums/j247/MATTYGREEN/e5274.jpg

http://i82.photobucket.com/albums/j247/MATTYGREEN/e5275.jpg

http://i82.photobucket.com/albums/j247/MATTYGREEN/e5276.jpg

http://i82.photobucket.com/albums/j247/MATTYGREEN/e5277.jpg

http://i82.photobucket.com/albums/j247/MATTYGREEN/e5278.jpg

http://i82.photobucket.com/albums/j247/MATTYGREEN/e5279.jpg

http://i82.photobucket.com/albums/j247/MATTYGREEN/e52710.jpg

http://i82.photobucket.com/albums/j247/MATTYGREEN/e52711.jpg

http://i82.photobucket.com/albums/j247/MATTYGREEN/e52712.jpg

http://i82.photobucket.com/albums/j247/MATTYGREEN/e52713.jpg

http://i82.photobucket.com/albums/j247/MATTYGREEN/e52714.jpg

krobinson
30-12-08, 10:23 PM
Looks good, looks very well put together :)

Benn
30-12-08, 10:29 PM
Jason does know how to build a good Nova.

discoinferno
31-12-08, 08:16 AM
love it :D

thegingerwhinger
31-12-08, 03:18 PM
very pretty few bobs worth sitting there :D

scott.parker
31-12-08, 05:15 PM
Well just had a read through it all, and it's a dam nice car, really like the color and all work the previous owner did!

Cant wait to see it next year.

PS: Any gen on where to get the C'A equal length shaft? as cant find it on his site?

Cheers.

Scott

vaughanmc
31-12-08, 05:32 PM
Awsome build the previous owner has done - The paintwork looks awsome and very well done :)

Rich
31-12-08, 05:33 PM
Looks well thought out, very nice.

^scott you'll have to ring him/email him about the shaft. Probably better to ring

dalenova
31-12-08, 06:19 PM
sweet ride

scott.parker
31-12-08, 06:26 PM
sweet ride

Hummm??


World Famous Cymbal Manufacturer the Avedis Zildjian Company recently announced the addition of the exciting new 21" Sweet Ride to its A. Zildjian range of cymbals, the most popular cymbals in the world.

http://news.harmony-central.com/Newp/SNAMM98/Zildjian/Sweet-Ride.jpg

game1
31-12-08, 06:41 PM
Hummm??



http://news.harmony-central.com/Newp/SNAMM98/Zildjian/Sweet-Ride.jpg

:confused:

scott.parker
31-12-08, 06:53 PM
sorry just the guy's been making silly comments on some threads, thought he's a bit of a joker,so just added my own twist of humor on it lol sorry.

game1
31-12-08, 06:59 PM
sorry just the guy's been making silly comments on some threads, thought he's a bit of a joker,so just added my own twist of humor on it lol sorry.

lol no worries, just noticed he's registered today, made 3 posts and logged off.

Rickyb
31-12-08, 10:21 PM
lol this realy is awsome hope to see it next year top work fella.

Mr.B
01-01-09, 01:57 AM
really nice car.. lets are the way forward.. :thumb:

game1
12-01-09, 08:41 PM
Have a few bits to put on the car:-

Top hat/turbo cover, re-painted it and had the 'turbo' done in the same colour yellow as the pin stripe on the car

http://i82.photobucket.com/albums/j247/MATTYGREEN/DSC03075.jpg

Storm single wiper

http://i82.photobucket.com/albums/j247/MATTYGREEN/DSC03077.jpg

Novatech flush fuel cap

http://i82.photobucket.com/albums/j247/MATTYGREEN/DSC03078.jpg

Just waiting for a few bits to come back from being powdercoated, then I can take to my mates to have the avcr fitted, also got to fit omex rev limiter with lauch control and omex sequential shift light. Also going to treat it to an oil and filter change.

http://i82.photobucket.com/albums/j247/MATTYGREEN/DSC03076.jpg

Then get the avcr set up at tuners and start using it again :D

scott.parker
13-01-09, 11:54 AM
Good plans mate.

Scott

stuartyj21
13-01-09, 12:46 PM
some nice goodies you have for the car mate..

how much was the single wiper conversion?

game1
13-01-09, 09:36 PM
Bought the wiper kit from good old ebay, new they are £75, paid £50 for it 2nd hand, been used only on show car and is in as new condition.

game1
28-01-09, 02:31 PM
Took car to my mates last night and later found out my quaife diff is fooked :mad: :mad: no wonder the car is spinning so easliy in 4th still and is hard to control. Has been like this since I bought it :mad: case is being opened later today/tomorrow, so better be one in there :confused: they come with life time warranty, so hopefully i should be able to get it exchanged.

Rick Draper
28-01-09, 02:50 PM
If you jack the car so both front wheels are on the floor you will be able to tell if its diffed or not. IIRC out of gear if you turn one front wheel the other should turn in the same direction.

How have you arrived at the conclusion that your diff is broken?

game1
28-01-09, 06:56 PM
Car is dangerous to drive, you need to be in the middle of two lanes if you drive it hard, then when you do it's all over the place. Also same happens when you de-accelerate. I thought it was down to the car not having an equal length set-up. Have had one fitted now and it helped quite a bit, but still isn't as it should be. I'm use to 4wd myself so, just thought it was a case of getting use to the car. Mate who drove the car owns his own business and does z-tec conversions on fords, etc..... he said it's dangerous and somethings not right with the car, and came to the conclusion of the diff.

Car was jacked up. One wheel was held and someone else tried to turn the other wheel, which you can on mine. Also tried it on another car in his workshop that has a diff and if one wheel is held you can hardly turn the other, if at all. Also when we tried it on mine you can hear a clonking noise, almost like a bearing that has come lose and something seems to be a-drift inside?

Box is out of car, will be split open tomorrow, so will see.....

Rick Draper
28-01-09, 10:58 PM
Just look through the diff with no CV's in, a pair of crossed bars in the middle is a stock open diff, a solid middle is a quaife.

Benn
28-01-09, 11:12 PM
I'm sure it did have a quaife fitted..

vaughanmc
29-01-09, 07:30 AM
Can those Novatech fuel-caps still be bought ?

corsakid
29-01-09, 08:27 AM
Just look through the diff with no CV's in, a pair of crossed bars in the middle is a stock open diff, a solid middle is a quaife.
stock open diff has one bar going through it
a plate diff has 2 bars crossed
and a lsd and no bars you can see through it

Rick Draper
29-01-09, 12:05 PM
stock open diff has one bar going through it
a plate diff has 2 bars crossed
and a lsd and no bars you can see through it

My F28 quaife is solid in the middle.

dj_wudgey
29-01-09, 01:27 PM
nice mate got some sweet little goodies for her!!

game1
29-01-09, 01:46 PM
Box has been split open and it does have a quaife diff in it :D have spoken to quaife direct and they say they very rarely fail :confused: Anyway it's being sent to them later today/tomorrow and is being serviced by them for a fee of £60, which will hopefully sort it.

scott.parker
29-01-09, 03:48 PM
Souns all bit strange (not saying your stupid) just though i would ask, you have checked that theres no loose bolts/nuts to the shocks, or the tie bars or anything silly like that?? as it can happen, and also if your wheel offset is around say 45 and the wheels are not track/aligned right it will dart all over the shop with the power you have.

But if it's the diff thats broken that is bad luck, i hope it dose sort it out, and dont coast no more then £60 mate.

Best of luck.

Scott

dan16v
29-01-09, 03:55 PM
Can those Novatech fuel-caps still be bought ?

Think i have one in my garage mate with 2 sets of keys! let me know if your intrested! iirc the proper novatec ones are no longer made.

Back on topic, love the top hat cover with the yellow detailing!:D

vaughanmc
29-01-09, 04:06 PM
Aye Dan I'm quite interested

I'll drop you a PM

Rick Draper
29-01-09, 04:31 PM
Box has been split open and it does have a quaife diff in it :D have spoken to quaife direct and they say they very rarely fail :confused: Anyway it's being sent to them later today/tomorrow and is being serviced by them for a fee of £60, which will hopefully sort it.

TBH my nova used to drive totally terrible. Never really go to the bottom of it though. Used to pull all over the road and was just generally **** to drive.

scott.parker
29-01-09, 04:35 PM
Rick, would alot of that been down to your wheel size/width and offset??

I know when i had 17's with 45 offset on my old nova it pulled all over the road,and when the camber in road would chage (center line, or go over white lines etc) it use to pull like mad.

Rick Draper
29-01-09, 05:10 PM
Rick, would alot of that been down to your wheel size/width and offset??

I know when i had 17's with 45 offset on my old nova it pulled all over the road,and when the camber in road would chage (center line, or go over white lines etc) it use to pull like mad.

Possibly but tbh i was never at any stage happy with the handling of it.

game1
29-01-09, 05:31 PM
Souns all bit strange (not saying your stupid) just though i would ask, you have checked that theres no loose bolts/nuts to the shocks, or the tie bars or anything silly like that?? as it can happen, and also if your wheel offset is around say 45 and the wheels are not track/aligned right it will dart all over the shop with the power you have.

But if it's the diff thats broken that is bad luck, i hope it dose sort it out, and dont coast no more then £60 mate.

Best of luck.

Scott


Checked everything is tight :thumb:

Will have to see what quaife say when they inspect the diff :confused:

Wheels have an offset of 45 and are 15". It was the same to drive when it had the 16" speedlines.

krobinson
29-01-09, 06:27 PM
It definatly sounds like there's something up mate.

I've an F28, Quaiffe, Equal length shafts, Poweflex bush's and rose jointed tie bars.

When I nail mine it drives straight and true, bit of wheel spin sometimes even a squeel in 4th, but it doesnt go all over the road.

Although once I hit a damp while line whilst overtaking in 3rd, that was interesting to say the least lmao.

game1
02-02-09, 12:39 PM
Whilst the box is out it's come to light the car has a 4 paddle techniclutch in it :roll: it's been o.k up to now, but after reading a few reports on them, i've decided to change it now whilst everything is apart.

Spoken to Stuart at Mardis Gras and have just ordered a helix 6 puk :cool: I was going to go for the 4 puk but the 6 puk was only £20 more, cost £406 inc delivery and will be with me by Thursday. They are both rated to 357lb-ft, but the 6 puk will be less likely to slip and last longer.

scott.parker
02-02-09, 01:57 PM
Deep pokets! lol, take it thats the full clutch kit then, as im sure just the plate is alot cheeper on it's own, but as your running alot of power it dose make sence to fit the full kit.
Still, hope this diff probs not going to be too coastly either.

Scott

game1
02-02-09, 03:41 PM
lol something like that. Will be sticking the other clutch on e-bay when it's out.... someone will buy it lol

Hope to get an answer from quaife middle - end of the week.

Lee H
04-02-09, 08:04 PM
Car is dangerous to drive, you need to be in the middle of two lanes if you drive it hard, then when you do it's all over the place. Also same happens when you de-accelerate.

My LET Nova with the Quaife diff and equal length shafts does this as well and the diff has only done about 200 miles. Was coming out of the motorway services in 2rd and nailed it and ended up going across the chevrons then back over to the hard shoulder, was dry as well :confused:

Benn
04-02-09, 08:05 PM
^Surely thats not right..

Rick Draper
04-02-09, 08:23 PM
^Surely thats not right..

Lees car is mint as well so there is nowt wrong with it.

Lee H
04-02-09, 08:36 PM
Lees car is mint as well so there is nowt wrong with it.

Cheers Rick.

The control arm bushes are new as are track rod ends and bottom ball joints. Control arms have been plated on the bottom. Running rose jointed top mounts and tie bars. Tracking has been checked, toeing out 2 degrees.

It is torque steer I think but the diff seems to exaggerate it to me, before the diff it used to go to the left under hard acceleration but now it seems to try and correct itself and pulls itself the other way and then back and keeps doing this until you are doing a decent speed.

Recall Ricks car doing the same albeit with much more power.

chrisnovaturbo
04-02-09, 10:02 PM
is it a atb diff? if so it will switch power to each wheel as thats it job.

Lee H
04-02-09, 10:31 PM
Mine is. Thats what I think its doing to be honest, maybe I just need to hang on to the wheel tighter.

Jonlem
05-02-09, 02:11 AM
A lot of Quaife LSD's act differently when old, infact someone I know of that has mapped a shed load of standard road spec Focus RS's said that you can feel slight differences in each car too as they run a ATB, kind of strange when you wouldn't expect that from a new diff but I'll take his word for it.

Mine never seemed to engage correctly on my nova so I spoke with Quaife about it and they said it might need a few parts replacing, they were very good about it though and they didn't quote me a lot.

Lee, 2mm toe out will be lively on road esp with a diff lol, good for corners though

game1
05-02-09, 02:13 PM
Cheers Rick.

The control arm bushes are new as are track rod ends and bottom ball joints. Control arms have been plated on the bottom. Running rose jointed top mounts and tie bars. Tracking has been checked, toeing out 2 degrees.

It is torque steer I think but the diff seems to exaggerate it to me, before the diff it used to go to the left under hard acceleration but now it seems to try and correct itself and pulls itself the other way and then back and keeps doing this until you are doing a decent speed.

Recall Ricks car doing the same albeit with much more power.


I hope it's the diff with mine then? Should hear from quaife any day now.

This is the set-up on mine......

Spax rsx coilovers, Uprated front + rear springs (rear springs converted to 2 1/4 inboard race springs), Black Powerflex bushes, Rose jointed track rod ends, Quaife quick rack, Spherical top mounts, Uprated front + rear anti-roll bars, Front + rear strut braces. Equal length shaft set-up.

It was all set up by 'x-sport' racing and has 1 degree toe in and 2 degrees camber. The suspension was also set up by them, including corner weigh set-up, whatever that means :confused:


I seriously hope mine is more driveable once the diff has been serviced by quaife as like I say it's dangerous and can't see me keeping if it doesn't to be honest. I'll never be able to drive it hard on the road for fear of hitting another car :cry:

My mate Steve (bux on mig web) has a 12.1 sec corsa b let and his is no where near as bad as mine - that has a tran-x plate diff in it. He hasn't got an equal length set-up in his yet either.

Jonlem
05-02-09, 02:37 PM
toe in ?

Its fwd mate so thats wrong for a start.

Try it set to parallel

game1
05-02-09, 02:45 PM
Reading through their reciepts.........

'supply and fit fully re-built rear beam with 1 degree toe in and 2 degree's camber, new bushes and rear disk conversion' :confused:

I see your Cambs, not far from me, can you suggest anywhere local to take it to to get it checked :D

Rick Draper
05-02-09, 04:27 PM
So its the rear that has the toe in not the front. I would get the front tracking checked.

Jonlem
05-02-09, 04:57 PM
Rear sounds fine, I'd get the front looked at.

Northampton motorsport is where were off to in the morning to get my mates RA Impreza done, I'd avoid Jamsport simply for the monumental cock up they did with Ollys car showing their better off building engines than setting geometry lol

You could go to most garages though and get the camber and tracking looked at, I'm from St Ives ( I know Bux btw ) and One Stop locally could do the basics for you as they always do mine and Gavs

The Simps
05-02-09, 05:29 PM
my old red nova behaved like yours and lee H's but I never had a diff. It was dramatically decreased when fitting the equal length setup.

I found with mine that I didn't get it on ultra smooth tarmac or circuit so put it down to the car simply tramlining.

Overtaking was very much a case of drop gear, pull out, boot it and hold the f**k on!! NEVER would I try and boot it then pull out at high revs on brittish roads. Been there, avoided the ditch (narrowly!).

novaxe235
05-02-09, 07:59 PM
mine to is a nightmare when driving hard its not as much power as urs(235bhp) and i run a quaife atb poly bushed through out i dont run equal lenght shafts yet but will do soon which i hope will cure it as i put it down to torque steer ive been right through mine twice nothings loose or broke/damaged ive also had my tracking camber/castor set and its still the same .

game1
05-02-09, 08:03 PM
Ahhh... forgot about N'pton M.sport and I work in N'pton too :roll: lol I'll take it there once the diff is back in to have it checked. I know you know Steve (bux) as I know he is mates with your mate Gav :)

Simps - whats your mates, Shaun Nova let to drive and has that got a diff in it :confused:

The Simps
05-02-09, 08:55 PM
Shaun's has got a diff and 290bhp on p2 but seems to drive fine from memory. It does pull but again not on smooth road so imo I think its road camber/bumps.

game1
12-02-09, 09:05 PM
Right.... at long last have heard from quaife direct today and apparently part of the diff is fooked :confused: there are four serviceable parts to the diff and one of them is broken, not 100% sure which bit (will have to check receipt when it comes back). It's going to cost the £60 service charge (life time warranty my ass :roll: ) and courier costs of £21 postage each way, so just over £100 + labour and oil to fix it, still...... could have be worse I guess!

Clutch STILL hasn't arrived from Mardis Gras - promise after promise :roll: :mad: but have been told it will be delivered to Wolverhampton tomorrow. Diff will be back on Monday, so all being well the car will be back together by the end of next week :D

Will need to put a few miles on the clutch asap and get the avcr set up on the rollers a I want to take it to pod on the 8th March.

Adam
12-02-09, 09:36 PM
Cool :)

scott.parker
13-02-09, 07:15 PM
Well least you know about the diff now eh, but whats with them covering it under guaranty? strange!

Scott

wilkogsi1
14-02-09, 12:33 PM
my atb did the same. it was the bell view washers inside the diff. quafie sent me them out free of charge and i fitted them myself. they even offered to fix the diff for free but i'd have to pay postage.

strange you'v had to pay £100, might be worth arguing with them over that.

Jonlem
15-02-09, 12:45 PM
Sorry to hear that Mardi Gras have messed you about, quite unusual of them to do that.

When I asked Quaife to look at mine it would of been chargeable, mine was second hand and I didn't have the receipt but I don't recall them even asking me that, the postage was the main cost though. Atleast it will be right now and people might realise that they do actually go wrong.

game1
15-02-09, 09:05 PM
I was told on Friday that the clutch is sitting in Milton Keynes TNT's depot and is being held there for some reason?? TNT's c*ck up from what Stuart said. Anyway the clutch should be delivered tomorrow - hope so as the diff came back from quaife on Friday, so just waiting for the clutch so it can be put back together :D

If all goes to plan, I should be able to collect it Thurs/Fri eve, put a few miles on it and take it to the pod on 8th March.

game1
16-02-09, 01:32 PM
:eek: clutch has arrived :cool:

game1
20-02-09, 10:44 PM
After waiting for the clutch to arrive, it didn't fit. The car has an xe lightened flywheel fitted and the helix needs to be fitted with a pot type flywheel. So I decided to have the original clutch put back in. Yes.... everyone slates the techniclutch, but after looking through my receipts, I found that the clutch was fitted new back in July'08 and has coped with 350lb-ft so far and still looks like new, so will replace it if and when needed (now selling helix 6 puk)

Right now that's not the most important thing to sort out. The diff has been re-fitted after being serviced - few pics whilst it was out :D

http://i82.photobucket.com/albums/j247/MATTYGREEN/qf1.jpg

http://i82.photobucket.com/albums/j247/MATTYGREEN/gf2.jpg

http://i82.photobucket.com/albums/j247/MATTYGREEN/gf3.jpg

http://i82.photobucket.com/albums/j247/MATTYGREEN/gf4.jpg



http://i82.photobucket.com/albums/j247/MATTYGREEN/gf5.jpg

game1
20-02-09, 10:50 PM
The car still pulls quite bad, not as bad as before - getting better, but still isn't as it should be?

Looking at the car the tracking looks like it might be slightly out, looks like the n/s/f is running on the inner edge and the o/s/f on the outer. Also looking at the front anti roll bar, the o/s/f looks to be about 6" longer than the o/s/f?

Here's a few pics....

http://i82.photobucket.com/albums/j247/MATTYGREEN/gf7.jpg

http://i82.photobucket.com/albums/j247/MATTYGREEN/gf8.jpg

http://i82.photobucket.com/albums/j247/MATTYGREEN/qf9.jpg

http://i82.photobucket.com/albums/j247/MATTYGREEN/gf10.jpg

http://i82.photobucket.com/albums/j247/MATTYGREEN/qf10.jpg

http://i82.photobucket.com/albums/j247/MATTYGREEN/qf11.jpg

http://i82.photobucket.com/albums/j247/MATTYGREEN/gf13.jpg


Also the wheels seem to be catching on the arb when on full lock - both sides??

game1
20-02-09, 10:59 PM
The car is booked in next week to have a full alignment/suspension check, so will see how that goes. The week after it's going back to Street Racers to have the avcr set up and a new rolling road report.

Here's a few pics of sum of the bits that have also just been fitted :D

AVCR

http://i82.photobucket.com/albums/j247/MATTYGREEN/qf15.jpg

OMEX SHIFT LIGHT

http://i82.photobucket.com/albums/j247/MATTYGREEN/qf14.jpg

http://i82.photobucket.com/albums/j247/MATTYGREEN/gf17.jpg


OMEX REV LIMITER/LAUNCH CONTROL - yep glove box needs a clean lol

http://i82.photobucket.com/albums/j247/MATTYGREEN/gf16.jpg



http://www.northamptonmotorsport.com/images/spacer.gif

The Simps
21-02-09, 11:42 AM
I think you've spotted your problem mate!

When fitted the f28 you have to lower the tie bars to the bttom of the control arm and drop the tie bar brackets at the crossember. You'rs has only been done on one side. I'd fix that before you waste money on geometry checking because it will only need doing afterwards.


EDIT: scrap that! wasn't looking at the pics right! lol

The Simps
21-02-09, 11:48 AM
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game1
25-02-09, 10:59 PM
Collected my car last night and had the front anti roll bar removed before I picked it up. I spent a while reading through various posts on the forum about the pro's and con's of having a front anti roll bar and can honeslty say it has made a huge difference in removing it already. When driving it back down the M6 - moving between lanes you can actually feel the car/suspension move, where as before the whole front end use to skip about all over the place. Also you can feel the difference in the diff too, the whole car seems much better i'm pleased to say :D

I also had my mate take it to a wheel alignment centre today and here's the car results....... the tracking/toe was slightly out, which has been altered. The front end still has negative camber - should it have? I'm yet to drive it myself since being checked any thoughts?

http://i82.photobucket.com/albums/j247/MATTYGREEN/sus.jpg

Benn
25-02-09, 11:07 PM
I beileve Jason had the car set up so the camber and tow would have been different to a std nova.

Rich
25-02-09, 11:10 PM
If it was slightly out then will probably make a good difference, are you sure nothings bent? Maybe bought somthing second hand that could be bent like lower arm etc?

But that would probably of shown up up the alignment results anyway?

game1
26-02-09, 09:04 AM
Yeah I know Jason had it set-up at x-sport racing. Just wanted to have everything checked myself. As the front end was pulling all over the place. Car seems to be much better now though :D

krobinson
26-02-09, 06:05 PM
Let us know how it feels.

I might try mine without the anti-roll bar too.

scott.parker
26-02-09, 07:52 PM
Keith BIN it! Andy Bishop and Karl Rowntree told me on my first car when they did the conversion that when you have an XE/LET it's worse with it, as it lifts the wheels when cornering hard.

Game1, glad it feels better now mate without, and i hope you get to enjoy the car now.

Scott

Adam
26-02-09, 08:01 PM
1-2deg neg camber is about what you want.

Liking this car a lot, some top bits on it :cool:

What shafts are you running??

game1
26-02-09, 08:49 PM
:D thanks for the comments

Adam - it's running a chris astleys equal length shaft set-up. Glad the camber is about right to, as that means there's no more messing about with it - just time to use it now.

Scott - was starting to get a bit disillusioned with it, but now it's almost as I want it.

I also purchased a screamer pipe for it today, should be here in time for when the avcr gets set-up, will try and get some video footage of it when it's on the rollers this time :thumb:

Adam
26-02-09, 09:21 PM
Screamer pipe, RR, and vids, oh yes :cool: :D

chrisnovaturbo
26-02-09, 10:20 PM
ive never fitted a anti roll bar to any of my novas as i dont like them glad someone thinks the same. !!!!

Lee H
27-02-09, 06:51 AM
ive never fitted a anti roll bar to any of my novas as i dont like them glad someone thinks the same. !!!!

Same here. Removed it from both of the gsi's I've had as well almost straight away! Think it's ok until you lower the car but that's the first thing I usually do anyway.

Benn
27-02-09, 09:25 PM
Never had the arb on mine either.

game1
02-03-09, 03:44 PM
Screamer pipe arrived from e-bay, not bad for £25 lol had a quick look and it fits spot on, just need to put some heat wrap on it then get it fitted.


http://i82.photobucket.com/albums/j247/MATTYGREEN/DSC03136.jpg

http://i82.photobucket.com/albums/j247/MATTYGREEN/DSC03139.jpg

Will be getting the boost set at 1.4bar/20psi on wednesday and will post some pics and vid clips :D

krobinson
02-03-09, 06:26 PM
Let us know what it makes at 20psi :)

game1
02-03-09, 08:33 PM
Hoping it will still make 320bhp+

Benn
02-03-09, 08:43 PM
Heat wrap over shineness... No no no no.

scott.parker
02-03-09, 09:44 PM
Now as im not gened up on Turbo's can anyone show me where the screamer pipe goes?

Was talking about these today with a mate, we were wondering if he would be able to use one on his 1600 8v T?

Scott

Benn
02-03-09, 09:50 PM
Comes of the manifold and makes alot of noise Scott. Use it on anything with a turbo.

Graeme
02-03-09, 09:52 PM
They're for turbos with an external wastegate usually

Sloth
02-03-09, 09:53 PM
what he said/\

Adam
02-03-09, 10:52 PM
And useful for scaring children/oap's

Rick Draper
03-03-09, 09:45 AM
You could fit one on any turbo, you just weld up the penny valve and fit a external wastegate into the manifold.

game1
04-03-09, 09:00 PM
Went to Gordons today and here's the cars results, am pleased to say it did better than I had hoped :cool:

http://i82.photobucket.com/albums/j247/MATTYGREEN/135.jpg

It's now running 330bhp & 331lb-ft with 270bhp @ wheels at 1.35bar/19.5psi http://www.street-legal.biz/board/images/smilies/biggrin.gif It was quite interesting as we ran the car with just waste gate pressure (.5bar) and car made 233bhp and at 1bar and it made 309bhp http://www.street-legal.biz/board/images/smilies/biggrin.gif Have also set the rev limiter now to 7000rpm, just to be safe.

Didn't get any pics or vids http://www.street-legal.biz/board/images/smilies/doh.gif as it look all of us that were there to keep it on the rollers. (gordon and misses in car, me + darren on each wing and one of gordons mates on the front end)

I'm off to the pod in it on Sunday so will get some vid's of it action then.

Benn
04-03-09, 09:42 PM
Nice power.

Adam
04-03-09, 09:43 PM
Impressive.

High 12s at pod! ;)

krobinson
04-03-09, 09:56 PM
Excellent, bet it's awesome to drive now

scott.parker
04-03-09, 11:46 PM
Fook me... thats awsome!

The Simps
05-03-09, 12:39 AM
No wonder you was getting torque steer bud! Ace result.

discoinferno
05-03-09, 06:33 AM
wicked results mate:)

did you have the apexi set up properly to try and eliminate wheel spin? boost vs rpm???

game1
05-03-09, 09:36 AM
:D cheers for the comments

Boost has been set via rpm, and it's hitting full boost just after 4,000rpm, although it was still spinning the wheels up on the rollers when hitting full boost, hence why we all had to sit on it lol

Setting A is controlled - boost vs rpm

Setting B is just 1.35bar

discoinferno
05-03-09, 04:55 PM
:D cheers for the comments

Boost has been set via rpm, and it's hitting full boost just after 4,000rpm, although it was still spinning the wheels up on the rollers when hitting full boost, hence why we all had to sit on it lol

Setting A is controlled - boost vs rpm

Setting B is just 1.35bar


cool :D

game1
11-03-09, 11:07 AM
Jason does know how to build a good Nova.


lol no he doesn't :mad: he needs to stick to plumbing or whatever he does and stay the feck away from Nova's :mad:

scott.parker
11-03-09, 11:28 AM
lol bit harsh!

game1
11-03-09, 12:29 PM
Not at all :mad:

I've had my mate Steve (Bux from mig web) check over the car and basically the car hasn't been strengthened as it should have been for a let engine :mad: it would only just about hold 1600cc together :roll: what has been used to strengthen it has been bodged.

The bottom of the car is going to need a new cross member and various other strengthening plates welded to it - great :roll:

Adam
11-03-09, 12:37 PM
Has it been stitch welded?

scott.parker
11-03-09, 05:44 PM
Not at all :mad:

I've had my mate Steve (Bux from mig web) check over the car and basically the car hasn't been strengthened as it should have been for a let engine :mad: it would only just about hold 1600cc together :roll: what has been used to strengthen it has been bodged.

The bottom of the car is going to need a new cross member and various other strengthening plates welded to it - great :roll:

If that's the case, then i dont blame you for being angry mate, sound's like a bit of a mess..:(

Benn
11-03-09, 09:35 PM
Far as i know it was stick welded and had the hh kit welded in.

Has the cross member not been cut to take the ic?

Rick Draper
11-03-09, 09:40 PM
basically the car hasn't been strengthened as it should have been for a let engine

Can i just say, there is no real set way to sort your car out for a LET, some stitch, some dont. Courtenay never used to weld there cars.

Benn
11-03-09, 09:41 PM
I do have to say, that knowing that jason has spilt seams (only one i've ever know to have done this) on a xe nova, i'll be shocked if hes bodged a let build, as see above.

Adam
11-03-09, 09:45 PM
Can i just say, there is no real set way to sort your car out for a LET, some stitch, some dont. Courtenay never used to weld there cars.
And did they survive????

Benn
11-03-09, 09:47 PM
h16... The pink one, elgan's was a courtney one wasnt it?

Adam
11-03-09, 09:51 PM
True yeah, he has it now?
So unlike a lot of the horror stories, un-welded shells dont rip apart as soon as you nail it.. lol lol

Benn
11-03-09, 09:56 PM
Yeah almost bought the ic from it..lol

No, rusty ones will be weak, out of all the shells i've seen, i've only ever seen one start to pull apart. And that was one of jasons that was driven very hard.

scott.parker
11-03-09, 11:02 PM
Ive seen a none rusty one, that was NOT stiched nore strengthend in any way rip the under side of the chassis appart, meaning the wings were touching on the pillars and a 2" gap between the bottom of the wing/door gap! so it can happen if drove hard with solid mounts/coilovers etc.

This was an XE on T45's coilovers.

Scott

Lee H
12-03-09, 08:20 AM
I've managed to crack both chassis legs on my xe one near the crossmember. Think it's from drag racing it so much plus the shell not being the best or not having been stitch welded.

Most let's that haven't had the bay welded have only been running standardish power as well as they all run f20's!

game1
12-03-09, 02:14 PM
Looking at the car it's only the engine bay that has been seam welded and a few token spot welds here and there, nothing like what should have been done when doing a let conversion. The tie bars have only been bolted to the lower cross member and the bolts that have been used are a joke to be honest, know where big enough. The tie bars have started to pull themself away from the cross member and the holes that are in the tie bars are now oval instead of being round :roll: This explains why the car has been a total bitch to drive as there's been nothing there to support the power the cars running. There's no support around the chassis legs either.

I've been on the phone to Chris Astley today and have ordered:- chassis plating kit, bottom arm strengthener plates, tca/tie-rod lowering kit and rose jointed tie-rod brackets. I've also ordered a new lower cross member from a local panel shop. All the bits should be here within a week or so, then Steve is going to strip the car down or me and have the above welded to the car and stich weld where possible without fooking the paint.

If only it had been done - right 1st time :mad:

novaxe235
12-03-09, 06:35 PM
my guess is the geometry will need doing again as well now if your fitting a new cross member etc .

Benn
12-03-09, 08:36 PM
What do you mean the tie bars have only been bolted to the xmember?
How else would they be fitted? And big bolts? Do you mean sterench wise?

game1
12-03-09, 09:09 PM
well well well........... after 2 days on and off the car is now somewhere close to where it should be!! to cut a long story short most of the car has been built to a very good standard but it seems the bits that actually matter were left untouched (as to speak) and bodged up.........but its not a problem it'll all be sorted and its good that someone like matty got hold of it as he will be prepared to sort it!

So firstly i raised up the car and inspected it........ the first thing i found was the front track control arms were bodged, along with the lower front cross member has also been bodged, these items take the majority of the power in a round about way. Basically somebody has repaired the front cross member but have lost the spacers in between the member and this on top of some bodge box section also without spacers has led to the front part crushing up when being done up.......this mean basically its never tight as the more you tighten it the more it crushes.....and eventually when it settles (even more so with 330bhp) then works loose again, the track control arm mounts have now eccentric'd them selves so under hard load the geometry is all over the place! A new lower cross member will be fitted along with new rose jointed control arm mounts, also the front hasnt been fully strengthend in the right places so a strengthening plate kit will be fitted to.....this should see the front strong and stiff enough to take the power................WE HOPE!!! lol

Anyway on to the geometry...............basically the toe once i put it on our machine wasnt as per the printout posted up but was some where close, but the camber was like touring car spec which is good for nothing on mattys car! So whipped the wheels off and free'd off the stut bolts, then fitted a set of camber bolts (which didnt fit as per instructions lol) got the car on the wheel alignment ramp and spent a good hour setting it all up......to find that once i set the camber to where it wanted to be (slight negative) the toe was miles toeing out.......this shudn't have been a problem BUT the rose jointed track rod ends were typical ****e aftermarket problems and not really fit for purpose. Once i set the toe to where it wanted to be there were like 3 threads holding each one on, so after a chat with matty i decided to order up some new track rod ends and hope the hubs hadnt been machined and the quick rack threads were that the same as the normal vaux rack......

So today i got hold of some track rod ends......i then disembled the old rosejointed ones off the car and luckily the new track rod ends fitted!! phewwww

i set the toe up by eye then got it back on the ramp, luckily id set it quite close so didnt take to long to set it all back up in spec! so after wot was a nightmare really to do an alignment set up we got there in the end.......im sure matty will post up a scan of the figures lol

game1
18-03-09, 09:10 PM
lol fitted a fido dido sticker to the rear window today, I think it looks :cool: anyway lol

http://i82.photobucket.com/albums/j247/MATTYGREEN/n95.jpg

stevie-p
18-03-09, 09:11 PM
lol i like it too

game1
22-03-09, 09:38 PM
Pics taken at fast show today :D copied from iainel's album - hope you don't mind :thumb:

http://i82.photobucket.com/albums/j247/MATTYGREEN/fast3.jpg

http://i82.photobucket.com/albums/j247/MATTYGREEN/f4.jpg

http://i82.photobucket.com/albums/j247/MATTYGREEN/fast2.jpg

http://i82.photobucket.com/albums/j247/MATTYGREEN/f3.jpg

http://i82.photobucket.com/albums/j247/MATTYGREEN/f5.jpg

Benn
22-03-09, 09:47 PM
Nice, what power did it make? Thought you where rewelding the engine bay?

Iain
22-03-09, 10:02 PM
Pics taken at fast show today :D copied from iainel's album - hope you don't mind :thumb:

Not at all, glad you like the pics. Took lots as it was the nicest Nova I've seen in a while :cool:

Made about 300bhp on the rollers didn't it?

chrisnovaturbo
23-03-09, 11:01 AM
i went to the pod yesterday and didnt see you there :cry: must of been hiding up the back:confused:

Joe Richardson
23-03-09, 11:16 AM
looks very nice:thumb:

Any under bonnet pics:D

jayme taylor
23-03-09, 07:09 PM
looks wicked pal ,

game1
23-03-09, 08:05 PM
Nice, what power did it make? Thought you where rewelding the engine bay?

It made just over 300bhp, which I thought was low until I read the graph when I got home. The plonker ran the car in 3rd and it was boosting to just over 1bar/15psi. AVCR has been set-up to run 19psi/1.35bar in the higher gears 4th/5th/6th to aid grip. Told him to run it in 4th too :roll:

http://i82.photobucket.com/albums/j247/MATTYGREEN/3006.jpg

Engine bay has been welded, it's under the car that hasn't hence ordering the chassis plate kit and other bits from Chris. It's all being done weekend 4th/5th april when Steve is off work. Will post pics of what's being done :D

discoinferno
23-03-09, 08:24 PM
awesome :)

brucer
28-03-09, 01:44 PM
nice to see a fellow png-er down down at the show.(i spoke to you just before you drove down to the dyno :) ) made some good power,didnt like the look of that 12 year old boy driving the car on to the dyno though.damn gremlins.lol. did the man testing it manage to get out of the car? hell,he had a job getting in.haha.

have got a vid of the run if you want me to load it up for you.

game1
28-03-09, 04:01 PM
nice to see a fellow png-er down down at the show.(i spoke to you just before you drove down to the dyno :) ) made some good power,didnt like the look of that 12 year old boy driving the car on to the dyno though.damn gremlins.lol. did the man testing it manage to get out of the car? hell,he had a job getting in.haha.

have got a vid of the run if you want me to load it up for you.

If you could up load it that would be sound :thumb:

lol nutty professor sprang to mind watching him getting in and out of it lol

Benn
28-03-09, 06:14 PM
Engine bay has been welded, it's under the car that hasn't hence ordering the chassis plate kit and other bits from Chris. It's all being done weekend 4th/5th april when Steve is off work. Will post pics of what's being done :D

Like where? I'm just intrested, not saying i dont beileve, Pics will be good too see.

corsakid
28-03-09, 10:20 PM
get the vid up

game1
29-03-09, 11:01 AM
Like where? I'm just intrested, not saying i dont beileve, Pics will be good too see.

Not 100% sure myself, but steve will be taking pics as he does it :thumb: all parts have arrived from chris :cool: roll on next weekend.

Benn
29-03-09, 11:04 AM
Sounds good dude, and re the roller thing, as they aid on mig, that type of dyno needs to be done in 3rd.

dj_wudgey
29-03-09, 11:33 AM
lol fitted a fido dido sticker to the rear window today, I think it looks :cool: anyway lol

http://i82.photobucket.com/albums/j247/MATTYGREEN/n95.jpg

jesus ive not seen fido dido for time lol

game1
29-03-09, 11:51 AM
Sounds good dude, and re the roller thing, as they aid on mig, that type of dyno needs to be done in 3rd.

yeah, read what someone posted on mig about the rollers :D TBH if he'd told me that when I booked it to go on I wouldn't have bothered :roll:

krobinson
29-03-09, 12:20 PM
Cool car - retro sticker!! lol

brucer
01-04-09, 08:25 PM
heres the vid,very poor quality and nothing much to see sorry.couldnt get it to load on photobucket.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oFvAud8jEbM

game1
01-04-09, 08:36 PM
:D cheers for that :thumb:

game1
17-04-09, 09:07 PM
At looong last the front end has been stripped - as much as it needs to be for the new cross member and other bits to be fitted and welded :D here's just a quick pic of how bad the cross member is - more pics to follow as the welding is being done over the weekend.........

http://i82.photobucket.com/albums/j247/MATTYGREEN/n95002.jpg

game1
19-04-09, 12:41 PM
ok so after 6 1/2 hours of cutting, grinding, banging etc...........the nova is now more structual at the front!! lol, first of all the old front pannel was removed which isnt an easy job............once off the whole front had to be cleaned up and all the old spot weld points were removed/cleaned etc..........the new front pannel was then offered up and after more cutting/grinding it was fitting in place nicely! First thing tho was to add gussets to the front crossmember before it was welded into place, this will stiffen up around the tie rod mountings, after making up new plates these were then tig welded into place.......then i had to move the radiator into a new position as the new cross member had the mount holes in the wrong place! so they were then done. Finally before it was welded in i shaved the front pannel to allow for extra clearance of the boost pipes!

then the pannel was welded into place, extra plates were also added onto the sides to tie the chassis right into the front cross member and also we added extra plates underneath around the lower joints! hopefully this will help with the power delivery......After a good few hours of chopping and welding the cross memeber was housed in nicely http://www.street-legal.biz/board/images/smilies/biggrin.gif then we had to start work on the manifold as the external wastegate pipe from the collector point was crack pretty bad and was only going to get worse!! So off came some of the heat wrap and it was tigged up............then i bolted it back together quickly to get it back in the unit, where it will now be unbolted, seam sealed and painted! then the bodges will be put right and it can then be reassembbled http://www.street-legal.biz/board/images/smilies/biggrin.gif


http://i82.photobucket.com/albums/j247/MATTYGREEN/nova1-2.jpg

http://i82.photobucket.com/albums/j247/MATTYGREEN/nova2-2.jpg

http://i82.photobucket.com/albums/j247/MATTYGREEN/nova3-2.jpg

http://i82.photobucket.com/albums/j247/MATTYGREEN/nova4-2.jpg

http://i82.photobucket.com/albums/j247/MATTYGREEN/nova5-2.jpg


More pics to follow.......

krobinson
19-04-09, 01:25 PM
Good work :)

Adam
19-04-09, 01:26 PM
Fook me, that crossmember wouldnt have stood up to much more abuse!!!

Good to see its being sorted.

Graeme
19-04-09, 01:31 PM
Did you manage to get the old one off with the front arches still on?

game1
19-04-09, 08:45 PM
Steve's spent another afternoon on the car for me .............(bloody thing http://www.street-legal.biz/board/images/smilies/tongue.gif)


"basically today firstly i got some of the welds cleaned up abit with the grinder and then went over the welds with seam sealer, put a good amount on to make it look nice as matty wanted......... http://www.street-legal.biz/board/images/smilies/dry.gif anyway after that had dried off i got down to painting the new front cross member, i only painted it with aerosol but its had a good few coats of primer and top coat so shud be all good. I then noticed there was a gearbox mount bolt missing......so cut a new bolt to length and fitted that, only to find the gearbox mount was fooked http://www.street-legal.biz/board/images/smilies/notgood.gif So...........off comes the gearbox mount and i repaired it as it had been running loose and had mullered the end of the mount.

I then decided that whilst its in bits the wiring is a total mess, also the screamer pipe was aiming at the horn wiring therefore aiming hot exhaust gas at the wire which aint gunna be long before thats fooked to http://www.street-legal.biz/board/images/smilies/doh.gif So stripped the loom back and run the reverse light switch away from the horn wiring and re-taped it up and routed them nicely.............i then started just tidyin up some of the other wiring including the dizzy, coil, gearbox switch and fan wiring......this is all alot better now!! http://www.street-legal.biz/board/images/smilies/biggrin.gif

Just now need to have a think about wot im going to do with the oil cooler as that was just shoved in the front not really held by anything substantual http://www.street-legal.biz/board/images/smilies/bang.gif "

pics to coming........

game1
19-04-09, 08:53 PM
http://i82.photobucket.com/albums/j247/MATTYGREEN/cross1.jpg

http://i82.photobucket.com/albums/j247/MATTYGREEN/cross2.jpg

http://i82.photobucket.com/albums/j247/MATTYGREEN/cross3.jpg

getting ready for paint....

http://i82.photobucket.com/albums/j247/MATTYGREEN/cross4.jpg

1st coat of primer....

http://i82.photobucket.com/albums/j247/MATTYGREEN/cross5.jpg

2nd coat of primer....

http://i82.photobucket.com/albums/j247/MATTYGREEN/cross6.jpg

finished in matt/satin black....

http://i82.photobucket.com/albums/j247/MATTYGREEN/cross7.jpg

http://i82.photobucket.com/albums/j247/MATTYGREEN/cross8.jpg

http://i82.photobucket.com/albums/j247/MATTYGREEN/cross9.jpg

and lastly you can see the new gearbox bolt and the wiring is alot tider than it was.....including the horn wiring now well out of the way of the screamer pipe!!

http://i82.photobucket.com/albums/j247/MATTYGREEN/cross10.jpg

The Simps
19-04-09, 09:28 PM
looks good mate! Its amazing how "busy" it gets around the turbo area lol

how come your f28 mount is on at an angle - any reason?

game1
20-04-09, 08:28 PM
looks good mate! Its amazing how "busy" it gets around the turbo area lol

how come your f28 mount is on at an angle - any reason?

Have no idea fella :confused: spoke to Steve today and he said it's all solid and couldn't be fitted any other way :confused:

discoinferno
20-04-09, 09:22 PM
Have no idea fella :confused: spoke to Steve today and he said it's all solid and couldn't be fitted any other way :confused:

it dosent really matter all thats happened is the mount has pivoted i bet he has done it so all of the mount is welded not 75-80% like on most where you have an edge thats not attached

djbrowney
20-04-09, 09:38 PM
cracking progress fella !

Benn
20-04-09, 09:43 PM
Talking to Steve, have gotta say i'm shocked.

game1
21-04-09, 08:55 PM
Talking to Steve, have gotta say i'm shocked.

Just got back from seeing the car in the flesh and the work Steve has done and i'm very impressed/happy with how it's turned out :D

Benn - now you can see/understand why I was sooo peed off a while back. I know your mates, or were mates with him :confused: but I just feel that he has taken the piss with all his false promises from when I bought the car and if it wasn't for the fact he lives over 170 miles away, I came very close to going to pay him a visit.............

Anyway..... the car will be all back together thursday/friday and all should be good and the car hopefully will be how it should be :cool:

Benn
21-04-09, 08:57 PM
I can yes. As i said to Steve, knowing Jason and the way he drives i thouyght it would have been built alot better.

game1
21-04-09, 09:52 PM
Also makes a mockery out of x-sport racing tbh as from what I understand/according to the receipts I have (had to pay for) they did quite a bit of work to the car lol

game1
24-04-09, 09:35 PM
I collected the car last night from Steves unit and WOW..... what a transformation :D

Whoooo.........

To say i'm as happy as pig in ****e is an understatement :D I'm over the moon with it now :cool:

I took it out and for the first time since owning the car I could drive the car hard and hit the limiter in 1st, 2nd, 3rd and 4th...... am soooo happy with it now, it hits three figures in no time at all :eek:

I've also ordered a bigger steering wheel, which should help and am going to have a play with the front coilovers as it's a little skippy on the front end at speed. If you hit a little bump it does make the car skip/makes the wheels spin a little, but is now totally driveable :D

Gav - turbo gav from mig also had a drive of it before I collected it and according to Steve he was impressed with it :D

Benn
24-04-09, 09:42 PM
Glad its more to your liking.

scott.parker
25-04-09, 12:01 AM
Now thats more like it....

The Simps
25-04-09, 01:38 AM
and am going to have a play with the front coilovers as it's a little skippy on the front end at speed. If you hit a little bump it does make the car skip/makes the wheels spin a little, but is now totally driveable :D



I had this problem even with coilovers! I had to run it quite stiff to stop the front end lifting, going light and as a result just spin up. Downside is the skipping on bumps which can be scary when going round long sweeping bends at speed!

Glad your 100% happy.

burgo
25-04-09, 01:54 AM
might have to pop up and have a nose about now im mobile again. where was it you had the welding done?

game1
25-04-09, 10:34 AM
might have to pop up and have a nose about now im mobile again. where was it you had the welding done?

You'll have to pm me your address or no: and i'll take you for a spin in it :thumb: welding was done at a place in raunds :thumb:

dj_wudgey
25-04-09, 10:47 AM
the work looks good mate!!

game1
26-05-09, 07:46 PM
Well........... it's all come to an end today :cry: Steve has taken the engine out and is starting to strip the rest of the car....

http://i82.photobucket.com/albums/j247/MATTYGREEN/engineout.jpg

Adam
26-05-09, 07:51 PM
Shame tbh, was a very nice motor!

craig green
26-05-09, 07:57 PM
This being broken?

Skipping fr end usually means you are running on bump stops in my experience.

Shaun
28-05-09, 09:15 AM
oooh soon to be at its new home ;)

get some more pics up matt :)

tony k
28-05-09, 10:38 AM
Well........... it's all come to an end today :cry: Steve has taken the engine out and is starting to strip the rest of the car....

http://i82.photobucket.com/albums/j247/MATTYGREEN/engineout.jpg

see you saturday matt,cant wait to fit the engine and other bits in mine:thumb:

scott.parker
28-05-09, 11:26 AM
What? whats happend? why you selling up?

Scott

game1
28-05-09, 04:14 PM
see you saturday matt,cant wait to fit the engine and other bits in mine:thumb:

Hope you mean Sunday mate, as I wont be there Saturday lol :thumb:

LEWI007
28-05-09, 06:49 PM
What you selling it for mate :confused:

brucer
28-05-09, 07:22 PM
was such a nice car, wanted to see what times it would do down the strip after seeing it in the flesh.

too bad chap.

hope you think about building something in the future.

game1
28-05-09, 10:50 PM
To be honest I didn't think it would have sold so quick, as I was planning to run it down the strip at pv and was hoping for a low 12, maybe a high 11, but will never know :p may look into a corsa at a later date :confused: here's a few more pics......

http://i82.photobucket.com/albums/j247/MATTYGREEN/strip1003.jpg

http://i82.photobucket.com/albums/j247/MATTYGREEN/strip1001.jpg

http://i82.photobucket.com/albums/j247/MATTYGREEN/strip1002.jpg

http://i82.photobucket.com/albums/j247/MATTYGREEN/strip1004.jpg

scott.parker
28-05-09, 11:45 PM
So whats the plan then? strip all the car for parts? money tight or something, im miffed mate as it seamed like you were getting there??

Shaun
29-05-09, 07:38 AM
The shell will soon be at its new home and have a let going back into it ;)

tony k
29-05-09, 01:16 PM
it is such a shame,is a lovely car,the ride on it was solid but,well atleast the shell will live on and the engine,so hopefully the engine will be getting a run down santa pad,when it finally gets fitted in mine sometime lol,see you sunday matt

Nova-nation
23-12-11, 06:19 PM
im glad i bought this nova!