6 speed onto 1600?? [Archive] - Performance Nova Group

darcy

11-09-08, 09:44 AM

hi im after some advice. iv sourced a 1.6 8v turbo motor to go into my engineless nova (ex c20let with f28) the problem is iv fitted the box mount for the 6 speed and the car is 5 stud using motorsport shafts so i either change the beam, shafts, wheels and weld a 5 speed mount back in and run 4 stud, or adapt the 6 cog which id like to do as its got an lsd to. an old mate of mine dav fitted an f16 into his 1.6 turbo (mustard yellow with lilac pearl, 17'' mim raffinos if anyone remembers it?) he said a few bolts had to be left out of the bellhousing and a clutch needed to be made up, unfortunately iv lost his number so cant ask him. i realise the f28's splines are different to the f16 he fitted but does anyone know if this can be done?? thanks in advance..

RSTChris

11-09-08, 10:12 AM

I know if you swap to 4 stud im desperate for a 5 stud'd rear disc beam!

Dod

11-09-08, 10:44 AM

I dont know the ins and outs but it should fit. You can make an F13 fit a Bix Block with 17TD Clutch and Flywheels (iirc) so it shouldnt be much of a difference doing the reverse. I'm sure someone else can advice but I'd say, based on the info I have, that yes, it can be done.

craig green

11-09-08, 11:20 AM

17TD flywheels weighs about as much as the car!

I would hazard a guess that something like a 1.8 bigblock flywheel from an old Astra GTE/Cav SRi would be what you need. Sorry I can't be sure but the chap from Finland running the same setup told me in an email ages ago (I lost it)..

You need a big block flywheel to match the bolt pattern on the 1600 crank. Sort that & you should be able to use a combo of clutch parts to mate it all up.

darcy

11-09-08, 03:19 PM

cool ill have a play tomorrow when my spare engine arrives, is the fly bigger though? will that mess up the starter engaging? im a great beliver in if its been done before then it can be done again so ill give it a go and see what happens

tom_beverley

11-09-08, 03:28 PM

I'm sure theres a 1600 8v running an F28 in the MIG projects section... in fact I'm 99% I've seen one.

I'll have a quick look now.

EDIT: Can't find it, grrrr

GDN16v

11-09-08, 03:40 PM

I'm sure theres a 1600 8v running an F28 in the MIG projects section... in fact I'm 99% I've seen one.

I'll have a quick look now.

EDIT: Can't find it, grrrr
White nova 1.6 turbo by any chance?;)

craig green

11-09-08, 03:54 PM

I'm sure theres a 1600 8v running an F28 in the MIG projects section... in fact I'm 99% I've seen one.

I'll have a quick look now.

EDIT: Can't find it, grrrr

I've read that somewhere, the white 1600-T GSi in the PNG features section (Dave Duthies) is reported to being built up with an F28.

mikey14sr

11-09-08, 04:20 PM

I'm sure theres a 1600 8v running an F28 in the MIG projects section... in fact I'm 99% I've seen one.

I'll have a quick look now.

EDIT: Can't find it, grrrr

I remember seeing pictures of it, both in and out of the car.

darcy

11-09-08, 04:33 PM

so it must be possible, i just dont wanna send the car off for a freshen up under the bonnet if i need to hack tha mount off to refit a 5 speed back in. keep m posted if u find out fellas.. cheers

Martin

11-09-08, 04:53 PM

yeah its a lad called daves, an L reg gsi, hes about to break it..

GDN16v

11-09-08, 04:57 PM

I've read that somewhere, the white 1600-T GSi in the PNG features section (Dave Duthies) is reported to being built up with an F28.

Thats my mates car, although the car is now being broken! All parts are available in the next week!:thumb:

craig green

11-09-08, 05:12 PM

Thats my mates car, although the car is now being broken! All parts are available in the next week!:thumb:

Make sure you PM me when the FS thread goes up. Could be intereseted in a fair bit of stuff. :thumb:

GDN16v

11-09-08, 05:14 PM

Make sure you PM me when the FS thread goes up. Could be intereseted in a fair bit of stuff. :thumb:

Will do dude!;)

darcy

11-09-08, 06:39 PM

cool. also can u ask him what he used to convert and if he wants to sell the relevant bits? cash waiting

12-09-08, 07:30 PM

if i remember correctly you will need a c20ne/c20seh flywheel. this uses the size 228mm clutch same as the xe/let but this flywheel mounts to the crank with 6bolts as opposed to 8 so should bolt straight up. then you will need the matching pressure plate and an f28 friction plate. pretty straight forward conversion. just the same stuff with the f28 tho with lowering the tie bars (even on the wishbones) for clearance. and then the mounts and linkage modifications.

darcy

13-09-08, 12:52 AM

Cheers for that... Just needed someone to point me in the right direction b4 i go off buying parts. Oh and the cars already f28, it was LET but now goin 1600 turbo.

DAN-F

13-09-08, 02:35 AM

its an n/a 1.7 derv flywheel to convert big block to f13,
i'd say it would have to be an ne or seh fly because they have the same bolt pattern for the crank and use the same size clutch as the f28

FUSION X16XE

13-09-08, 12:57 PM

(mustard yellow with lilac pearl, 17'' mim raffinos if anyone remembers it?

Lives in Eastbourne?

darcy

13-09-08, 02:42 PM

Lives in Eastbourne?

thats the guy, dav. a mad irish lad. i drove all the way down from north wales to buy a turbo off him years ago. lost his number now though, shame cos he's a nice lad with a lot of knowledge. he had a mk3 astra with a 3l v6 last time i spoke to him