View Full Version : Clarifying the end of the world...
Tidy Max
10-09-08, 08:41 AM
Right, BASICALLY
The biggest physics experiment known to man is being fired up today,
its cost a whopping 5.3 billion i think and is a joint effort from alot of nations, Britain its self has put in 500million.
The experiment is underground in Geneva, its at a place called CERN and its a sub atomic particle accelerator, so whats gona happen is they fire 2 sub atmoic particles (protons) in opposite directions round a specillay made.... er race track? ha
using corrective magnets to steer the protons they will crash head on replicating (with any luck) the big bang
the explosion will produce temperatures 10 TIMES that of the heart of the sun, the track is supercooled to -271 degress, which is only a degree off absolute zero,
NOBODY is going to die!
IF! and its a very big IF, a black hole is created it will be microscopic and last for 10 billionths of a second,
the point of the experiment is to find a particle called a boson (higgs boson after the guy who thought of it) the best way to think of this is that you have allllllll of your forces, gravity etc, and to make them all work and be relitive to each other u need some super glue, aka, the higgs boson
exciting stuff, if you wear glasses and get excited over magnets..... ohhhhhhhhh yeaaaaah :thumb:
what do you all think of this??
NovaBoi92
10-09-08, 08:45 AM
it stuff that we're not meant to know. leave it that way
This thread needs Phil Sutton and Hendrix. In fact, we've had this discussion before I believe. lol
http://www.pngclub.com/forum/showthread.php?t=103369&highlight=CERN
REEEEPOST!!!
Tidy Max
10-09-08, 08:49 AM
its stuff that were not meant to know?!?!
Who says were not meant to know it?
NovaBoi92
10-09-08, 08:53 AM
i do
is it because you dont understand it that you think we shouldnt know about it?
that puts 99% of most stuff in the same boat for most people
NovaBoi92
10-09-08, 09:02 AM
i dont know really, it might be because i dont understand it, but its just that if theres any risk that this could put the whole world at risk - just for the benefit of science, knowing what happened after the big bang...may be the end of the world...dont know. apartently scientist may be able to find a cure for cancer etc.. after the results are collected for this experient in about a years time. cure for cancer - big bang? how? they said it on gmtv
According to the BBC, it will cause cancer
NovaBoi92
10-09-08, 09:04 AM
gmtv vs bbc. gmtv ftw! :)
t45_ste
10-09-08, 09:06 AM
Free energy for all?:thumb: :D
NovaBoi92
10-09-08, 09:08 AM
lol toonattik/free energy. its all guurrd
Bob? Yeah Bob sorry you're going to have to speak up I'm on my cellular telephone.
I don't care Bob, you're fired. YOU'RE FIRED! You're f*****g fired Bob.
Clean out your locker at the club Bob, YOU'RE F*****G FIRED!
I don't f*****g care what he told you, ok? I'm talking about 40 million f*****g Deutschmarks here Bob, 40 million f*****g Deutschmarks. I told you to wire the money to Gineva last week. I say Gineva- you hear Helsinki. eh? 40 MILLION F*****G DEUTSCHMARKS BOB!
Tidy Max
10-09-08, 09:19 AM
the track is 27km long and the particles do 11,000 laps a second.... like me at rockingham ha
i see what your saying 91sr, but 2 steps forward one step back surely is better than staying in a rut, besides the end of the world argument is abit weak, the chances of it happening are stupidly stupidly minimal, i think you probably have more chance dying from a nova landing ontop of your nova while your at a nova show......
interesting though, i dont understand the cancer thing, can anyone explain? im at work and GMTVless
Tidy Max
10-09-08, 09:20 AM
im the backwards man the backwards man...
NovaBoi92
10-09-08, 09:22 AM
they didnt explain the cancer thingie much, they just said some thing like 'may even hold the cure to dieseases such as cancer..' yeah lol the end of the world by a few tiny black holes that could grow into a big black hole and kill us all. yeah - what am i on about it is quite i good thing i suppose.
GMTV are cretins and claim that anything will lead to a cure for cancer (its a popular dickhead viewer winner). Where as BBC claim that everything causes cancer/aids/H5N1/Pollonium poisioning etc.
its like Karma lol.
also as said in another thread. Would we know we had all died because of the black hole experiment?
Dale wintons smile causes cancer
FACT
NovaBoi92
10-09-08, 09:22 AM
yeh i was goin to ask, 2 steps forward and one step back? whats the one step back?
NovaBoi92
10-09-08, 09:23 AM
Dale wintons smile causes cancer
FACT
hahahahaha lmfao because its true!
Tidy Max
10-09-08, 09:28 AM
haha not sure :P the one step back is all the bad points that could possibly happen from this thing! someone saying it could cause cancer :S... if there is no step back then awesome lol
the blackholes arent happening, i think in theory a black hole can only get exponetial (however its spelt) if it is created to be quite large in the first place, rip in the space time fabric thang, not a microscopic one, it would just fizzle out kind of like a real torando, OR the little spiral of leaves u see on the pavement..
Supermarket Sweet FTMFW
Ohh how i want to understand all this particaly thingy ma bobby.. but i fear my head will implode...
NovaBoi92
10-09-08, 09:29 AM
lol love the explanation tidy max!
Tidy Max
10-09-08, 09:31 AM
lol really? i struggle on forms as i cant hear tone of voice, i never know sarcasm or not :)
from now on, i hear by state that all sarcastic comments must be in red font lol
NovaBoi92
10-09-08, 09:33 AM
lol thats not sarcasm. good explanation :)
Can think of better things for 5.3 billion to be spent on :roll:
NovaBoi92
10-09-08, 09:35 AM
''in theory a black hole can only get exponetial if it is created to be quite large in the first place, rip in the space time fabric thang, not a microscopic one, it would" its like all this doctor who sh1t lol. hmm there seems to be a rip in the tim/space continuem which in turn will result in the exponential black hole!!
i nearly ripped my brown hole doing a massive choccy wheelspin the other night!!
Tidy Max
10-09-08, 09:38 AM
precisely watson, you got it, if anyones ACTUALLY interested then Steven Hawkings (well that put you all off instantly) book, a brief history of space and time, is a bangin book for explaining stuff in laymans terms
steven hawking and bangin in the same sentance, probably a first
NovaBoi92
10-09-08, 09:40 AM
steven haawkings is a legend. i watched a program on him. abit boring but hes...quite...clever. he moved his computer thingie and he talks but moving his cheek, its the only muscle he can stilll move. i think he like left clicks or summin with his cheek :p
Can think of better things for 5.3 billion to be spent on :roll:
That would buy a lot of ice cream.
Tidy Max
10-09-08, 09:42 AM
that was the program that made me get the book, clever chap, when he got that disease they said,
"Steven couldnt communicate for 4 years due to lack of technology <aww>,
so he did all of his work in his head, then wrote it down when the technology was developed"
..... can somebody say SWOT haha
NovaBoi92
10-09-08, 09:44 AM
they told him he would die a few years after he got the diesease
Tidy Max
10-09-08, 09:45 AM
yeahhh and hes still going on, hes going in space soon isnt he? wheel chair upgrade lol
NovaBoi92
10-09-08, 09:47 AM
hes alread been up into space look at him, all floating about here :p http://www.gozerog.com/images/Hawking_001.jpg
lol really? i struggle on forms as i cant hear tone of voice, i never know sarcasm or not :)
from now on, i hear by state that all sarcastic comments must be in red font lol
Forums ;)
and i ment it, maybe i could of gotten a better job if i botherd to listen at all in school
hes alread been up into space look at him, all floating about here :p http://www.gozerog.com/images/Hawking_001.jpg
There is something unnaturally scary about that picture!
NovaBoi92
10-09-08, 09:52 AM
ha! unnaturally scary - lol it is actually quite scary tho
jesus, you get 12 hours MAX of forum no time, and you go fcuking post whore crazy..... CHILLL
Tidy Max
10-09-08, 09:53 AM
hahaha but my favourite thing about FORMS is the way you get corrected :P haha only joking
i dont think hes in space there, just in one of those kamikaze planes that flys up and down as hard as possible to replicate no G, i want to go in one, similar to the one they do on one of the jackass films i think? where steevos sicks floating around ... ew
NovaBoi92
10-09-08, 09:54 AM
no he definatly did go into space
Tidy Max
10-09-08, 09:56 AM
whats forum NO time? and post whoring? sorry anyway though!
haha okay doke, were u the pilot?
91_nova_sr was banned for a max of 12 hours last night..... so now he appears to have a premature post ejaculation problem...
After a bit of Googling, SH seems to have NOT been into space yet.
NovaBoi92
10-09-08, 10:00 AM
it had been on the news tho i remember them saying it.
NovaBoi92
10-09-08, 10:01 AM
and i dont have a premature post ejaculation problem :mad: + he banned for for something he THOUGHT i done, even tho i didnt :(
Tidy Max
10-09-08, 10:08 AM
ahh sorry now i understand! lol
i knew he had got himself booked on the first passenger flight to space, didnt know if he'd already been, good stuff though!
Does anyone know how the experiement has panned out? have they managed to complete a full lap now?
there was just a bloke on the radio saying how it will open a portal into another dimension lol wierd
lol the yoof of today still cant grasp things being said.
you are posting a load of old toss all over the place...... It wasnt a comment regarding you sexual virality :wall:
NovaBoi92
10-09-08, 10:09 AM
they are not actually doing the particle collision thingies today, i think tomorrow maybe. so we all die TOMORROW ok not today :)
edit: maybe
NovaBoi92
10-09-08, 10:12 AM
+ tbh im not 100% on him going into space, i just heard it on the telly
Tidy Max
10-09-08, 10:20 AM
oh good, at least i can do one more day of work before we pop it then lol
ohhhh noww the truth comes out :P
+ tbh im not 100% on him going into space, i just heard it on the telly
He's been up a number of times in a zero-G dive aircraft to see if he can handle zero gravity. Apparently he plans to take a flight on a Virgin "galactic" sub-orbital space flight, of which Richard Branson has supposedly paid for.
yoof
bin the text typing
LMAO
lol lol
hendrix
10-09-08, 10:51 AM
Its not up to full power yet people, not for a few months yet! These doomsday people don't half speak a load of rot!!
Tidy Max
10-09-08, 11:00 AM
they do speak rot indeed good sir!
does anybody know what the power consumption will be? im sure they arent publicising it but there must be some cheeky figures somewhere?
10,000,000Kwh a day lol
well ive found out there are 2000 power supplies, assuming they are all 3 phase (at the minimum) that would be errrrr 830,000 volts
oh deary
Best they buy TWO packs of AA's then!
well ive found out there are 2000 power supplies, assuming they are all 3 phase (at the minimum) that would be errrrr 830,000 volts
oh deary
and thats just to power 91_nova_SR's butt plug
hendrix
10-09-08, 11:22 AM
Look at the numbers for the cooling systems!!! Mental really.
They have to take the temperature down to 1.9K to acheive superconductivity in the magnets that are used to bend (dipole) and focus (quadropole) the beam. This is so there is very low electrical resistance and to acheive a very high magnetic field (8.3Tesla iirc)
Thing is even though the proton beams are going to be at an energy of 7TeV, in real terms this is like the energy or a small insect like a gnat pmsl
hendrix
10-09-08, 11:23 AM
and thats just to power 91_nova_SR's butt plug
fpmsl! lol lol
Tidy Max
10-09-08, 11:41 AM
Best they buy TWO packs of AA's then!
pff, 2 AA's u silly fool, more like 4 square ones
DaveyLC
10-09-08, 02:01 PM
Its all pretty impressive stuff even if they dont discover anything.. There are 'beam dumps' located around the particle accelerator for disspating the energy from the particle bleam which equates to about 4 Terrawatts! :eek: :eek: :eek: Focused into such a small beam that is really emmence! Think of the damage a 1 megawatt laser can do and its miles bigger than the particle stream I should think.
Apparently if one of the magents was to fail and the beam escaped it would go through the rock face like a stream of piss through a wet tissue.
That would buy a lot of ice cream.
Ice cream for everyone. :thumb:
Tidy Max
10-09-08, 07:41 PM
bought a laser pen that was that strong from lanzerote once...
...got the naked lady attachments and everythin!
twistysnovagte
10-09-08, 07:51 PM
apparently this is just the "warm up"of the machine,and the main test will happen on the 21st of october!
i got told the same as twistysnovagte. today there checking every thing works and swich's on and on the 21st of october there doing the experiment.
:( ill only be 16 for 5 days :cry:
were not going to die the chance's are like something stupid like 1 in a 1000000000000 (rough estimate) but did get told it would be the same as winning the lottery like 5 times in a row lol
So they find out what happened in the big bang or whatever.So how do they find out how them particles got there before the big bang???? Waste of money imo im sorry but it is,Britains 500mill could have gone on much better things but yet again our government have rocks in their heads
we basiclly paid that 500 mill in Tax's
we basiclly paid that 500 mill in Tax's
And the rest!
Makes me sick it does,that money could have been spent trying to rid us areas of crime etc
I had this discussion with a mate of mine today who drives a lorry for TNT. We got onto the subject that someone rekons it could compact the earth down to the size of a pinhead.
His comment was 'cool, my round will be a lot smaller' lol
19CooP91
10-09-08, 10:12 PM
why not get rid of all the vandals and reduce crime that would cost less than a hundreth of that! .... and lower petrol prices while there at it, going out in mates cars and chippin in for petrol is ridiculous, might aswell pay for a taxi....4 times over!
why not get rid of all the vandals and reduce crime that would cost less than a hundreth of that! .... and lower petrol prices
lollolHow do yo get rid of vandals and reduce crime and petrol prices with 5million quid
Bob? Yeah Bob sorry you're going to have to speak up I'm on my cellular telephone.
I don't care Bob, you're fired. YOU'RE FIRED! You're f*****g fired Bob.
Clean out your locker at the club Bob, YOU'RE F*****G FIRED!
I don't f*****g care what he told you, ok? I'm talking about 40 million f*****g Deutschmarks here Bob, 40 million f*****g Deutschmarks. I told you to wire the money to Gineva last week. I say Gineva- you hear Helsinki. eh? 40 MILLION F*****G DEUTSCHMARKS BOB!
LMAO lol thats the first thing i thought of when i read Geneva lol :cool: :thumb:
Top film, lets keep our fingers crossed and hope i get a job Freddy, crossed! crossed lol
Yay for Mancs and comical refs
So how do they find out how them particles got there before the big bang????
To paraphrase Stephen Hawking, asking what was there before the Big Bang is like asking how to go North when you're standing on the North Pole.
How do yo get rid of vandals and reduce crime and petrol prices with 5million quid
500 million :p Which, incidentally, according to Google is the same as Nothern Rock's losses!
The thing is, CERN is a (relatively) one off cost. If you were to spend £500m on domestic issues, that would last probably a year at best and would require ongoing cost - for example, £500m may buy you 1,000 bobbies, or build a new hospital - but what happens next year when those coppers need paying, or that hospital needs maintenance? In terms of Government spending, £500m is not really that big a deal.
I had this discussion with a mate of mine today who drives a lorry for TNT. We got onto the subject that someone rekons it could compact the earth down to the size of a pinhead.
His comment was 'cool, my round will be a lot smaller'
LMFAO!
I heard a woman on the radio earlier saying that if we all get sucked into a black hole, we'll be spaghettified - so for about half a nanosecond I'll be really really thin :D
His comment was 'cool, my round will be a lot smaller'
Well, relatively speaking, no it wont, cos his van would be reduced in size in an equal ratio!!
So, we're not all dead yet. Which leaves me in a bit of a pickle. Namely a boot full of dead bodies, mainly people I didnt like.
Suggestions please?
So, we're not all dead yet. Which leaves me in a bit of a pickle. Namely a boot full of dead bodies, mainly people I didnt like.
Suggestions please?
Only mainly people you didn't like? Why did you bump off some that you did? lol
Because they were there and saw too much!!
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