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nova nick
03-09-08, 02:07 AM
can anyone tell me were the best place would be to look for launch and traction controll from. for my redtop nova.;)
thanks
id surgest looking at your right foot ;)
id surgest looking at your right foot ;)
Took the words right out of my mouth
Learn to drive it properly
WOW that must be some beast!
Post spec please lol
FUSION X16XE
03-09-08, 12:38 PM
Demon tweaks sell it mate, but as said its easier and cheaper just to learn how to drive.
an option on aftermarket engine managament setups like Omex 600 etc
Really helpful guys.. well done :roll:
tbh they have a point.... OK I'd expect the likes of Lee, Dar, Spanishfly, Oly etc to maybe (just maybe) need it with their higher power engines. But on a std engine its next to pointless as you really should learn how to drive it rather than relying on crap electronics.
ok hes not mentioned the spec/why its needed but still
My car isn't high power!
Anyway look at aftermarket ECU's each company has an ECU that will do the job. They are pricey though.
Certain MS kits have Launch Control add on's ;)
Using Megasquirt is probably one of the cheaper options. Some info here http://madscientistmatt.blogspot.com/2005/11/introduction-to-megasquirt.html
Use this link for extra reading
http://www.google.co.uk/search?num=100&hl=en&sa=X&oi=spell&resnum=0&ct=result&cd=1&q=Megasquirt+traction+control&spell=1
tom_beverley
04-09-08, 06:02 PM
I have an Omex rev limiter which has an additional launch control function (press and hold a button) which will be probably the cheapest/most simple method of fitting what you are after.
Think they are still about on eBay, if not try Demon Tweeks, Rally Design and similar shops.
Demon Tweeks supply a Launch Control kit for £109+vat IIRC.
Look in there Motorsport Catalouge (the Tunning book is full of ****e parts :thumb: )
tom_beverley
04-09-08, 06:07 PM
One >>here<< (http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Omex-Single-Coil-Rev-Limiter-with-Launch-Control_W0QQitemZ260281237022QQcmdZViewItem?hash=i tem260281237022&_trkparms=72%3A12%7C39%3A1%7C66%3A2%7C65%3A12%7C24 0%3A1318&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14) on eBay for £85 + P&P.
all those launch control kits is hold the revs at a set point. why cant you hold the revs with your foot?
tom_beverley
05-09-08, 09:03 AM
He's not asking what they do but WHERE to get one from.
i know but purhaps he doesnt realise what they do and therefore doesnt realise how pointless they are
nova nick
07-09-08, 02:43 AM
My car isn't high power!
Anyway look at aftermarket ECU's each company has an ECU that will do the job. They are pricey though. thanks dar.
nova nick
07-09-08, 02:50 AM
evan holdin the revs with me foot as soon as i plant it then put it, into second it spins up even in the dry. i have goodyear f1 egal tyre's too. but it stil spins. the engine is pritty much standard, but i want to do sprit run's so less spin of the start the better.
i was lookin for adjustable launch contoll too.
sounds like you need a lsd. an aftermarket traction control will also limit the spin, but a launch control needs altering to suit every start condition. all the racers do practice starts to work out their settings
mikey14sr
07-09-08, 10:53 AM
evan holdin the revs with me foot as soon as i plant it then put it, into second it spins up even in the dry. i have goodyear f1 egal tyre's too. but it stil spins. the engine is pritty much standard, but i want to do sprit run's so less spin of the start the better.
i was lookin for adjustable launch contoll too.
Have you had all the suspension geometry checked out? As that can help if there's a lack of mechanical grip.
Novaboi_1991
07-09-08, 11:47 AM
Whats wrong with the spin? lol wish mine did that lol
i was thinking about fiting one of them OMEX SINGLE COIL REV LIMITER WITH LAUNCH CONTROL i just want to no how it all works
Whats wrong with the spin? lol wish mine did that lolCHAV
Assuming your the same person i've seen driving around Cannock in a bluey coloured XE Nova, then you need to control your right foot as everytime i've seen you, you just hammer it everywhere..
nova nick
07-09-08, 03:03 PM
[quote=Mazz]Assuming your the same person i've seen driving around Cannock in a bluey coloured XE Nova, then you need to control your right foot as everytime i've seen you, you just hammer it everywhere..[/quote
spy:)
the car wasn't built to be driven slow, but i will bear it in mind thanks. if i nailed it all the time there wouldn't be much left of the engine anyway. i dosn't get used that much so wen it is use it has a bit of stick.;) ive only snaped 1 c.v joint in 12months so i dont rag it that bad
before you say it to im not a 17yrs old.lol
nova nick
07-09-08, 03:07 PM
sounds like you need a lsd. an aftermarket traction control will also limit the spin, but a launch control needs altering to suit every start condition. all the racers do practice starts to work out their settings
would ajustable launch help with altering for start coditions.
ive bin lookin into the l.s.d's to, that another thing i could do with to stop a bit of the torque steer.
thanks for your help im greatfull.
nova nick
07-09-08, 03:10 PM
CHAV im with you on that m8.:thumb:
the car wasn't built to be driven slow
You mean your incapable of driving slow :p
nova nick
07-09-08, 09:27 PM
thanks for the theory test.:wtf:
1.6 8v turbo nova
08-09-08, 03:47 AM
im with you on that m8.:thumb:
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lollollollollol
evan
with me foot
so i dont rag it that bad
i dosn't get used that much so wen it is use it has a bit of stick
Haha :D quality :tard:.
As said, if your car is spinning through the gears a LSD would help you no end. Launch control will just kill the power until it grips again, major speed losses.
LSD will bring both wheels into play under accelerationg and double your current grip but also, as previously mentioned, Suspension settings could help you no end. Making sure as mucbh trye is in contact with the ground as possible.
If you can, get a run in a Vtec Honda of some sort. These all have (most anyway) LSD standard and accelerate like nothing else.
Judging from your replies, launch control isnt needed
You just need to curb your enthusiasm
nova nick
08-09-08, 12:11 PM
thanks for the help dod & stoo im goin to look into the lsd side of things first, thanks again:thumb:
nova nick
08-09-08, 12:16 PM
As said, if your car is spinning through the gears a LSD would help you no end. Launch control will just kill the power until it grips again, major speed losses.
LSD will bring both wheels into play under accelerationg and double your current grip but also, as previously mentioned, Suspension settings could help you no end. Making sure as mucbh trye is in contact with the ground as possible.
If you can, get a run in a Vtec Honda of some sort. These all have (most anyway) LSD standard and accelerate like nothing else.
whot is the best way to set the camber, as i only have about 3/4 of the tyre gripin maybe a bit more but i get a bit of inner edge tyre wear?
thanks.
get some camber bolts for the front
or elongate the strut holes
but, get it set up properly
Adjustable top mounts would help. It seems your wheels are angles in at the top. As Stoo siad, camber bolts (iirc around £) shouls dort the majority of it. Speak to the track lads in here and ask their opinion, or start a new thread in the Mechanical Section.
btw, you should come and say hello at one of our meets, not just drive in the car park and wheel spin out! :p
FUSION X16XE
08-09-08, 01:16 PM
get some camber bolts for the front
or elongate the strut holes
but, get it set up properly
My coilovers have the elongated holes, but im un-sure of how so set it up properly? Do a garage use a laser machine? Tbh i dont want to pay to get it done if i can do it my self, Atm i have slight neg camber. :thumb:
you need to have it set up on a laser alignment rig
isnt too easy to do yourself tbh
FUSION X16XE
08-09-08, 01:36 PM
Thought as much, cheers mate.
Get your own thread Fusion you Bum!! lol
FUSION X16XE
08-09-08, 01:48 PM
Whats that? Dod wants a thread about my bum? Think you have the wrong forum again mate lol
Dod wants a snowplough???
LMAO!!!
I actually got one and an 86 Corsa A to go with it.
you can do it very inaccurately for £15 with one of those sealey magnetic camber gauges. OR properly for £100 with a camber gauge from the likes of Merlin/DT/Rally design. OR simply pop down to your local laser place, get the gear on there and adjust the camber till its right. Give them £30 and FRO :D
FUSION X16XE
08-09-08, 02:16 PM
Think ill go to the garage.
Sorry to whoeva started this thread lol
nova nick
08-09-08, 05:25 PM
btw, you should come and say hello at one of our meets, not just drive in the car park and wheel spin out! :p
sorry for being ignarant, i will stop next time, i didn't realise it was a meet there was only a few car's there.:D its at the old winkin frog pub.;) 2 novaslol
nova nick
08-09-08, 05:29 PM
bin lookin at chris ashly motor sport sorted now!!!.
sorry for being ignarant, i will stop next time, i didn't realise it was a meet there was only a few car's there.:D its at the old winkin frog pub.;) 2 novaslol
Aye, at the w@nking toad ;)
Aye, at the w@nking toad ;)
lol nice name for a pub
bin the text typing nova nick..
Dinoman
29-09-09, 03:55 PM
you need to have it set up on a laser alignment rig
isnt too easy to do yourself tbh
Hi it is simple to do it your self all you need is a level floor to sit your wheels on, can use bits of wood to get floor level, then with a spirit level standing vertically on the floor and at wheel center measure with a tape measure difference between the top of the wheel and bottom of wheel ( not Tyre) to spirit level, so if you are running normal Neg Camber at present approx 3mm or 1/8th inch so increase it to about 5 to 6mm or 1/4 inch, most important is to have both sides the same, I hope that helps, Regards DM
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Dinoman
29-09-09, 04:26 PM
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No problem, people can still read it OK, Regards DM
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