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Lookin at 42" HD TVs, Whats better, LCD or Plasma?
Cheers
I would go for the LCD myself. Plasmas do look nicer and may be cheaper, but they run out.
wisewood
07-08-08, 04:15 PM
http://gadgetshow.five.tv/jsp/5gsmain.jsp?lnk=501&featureid=354&description=TVs
Depends how long you want to keep it for. In a few years time decent sized OLED tv's will be sensibly priced and will give better quality than plasma.
wisewood
07-08-08, 04:25 PM
http://direct.tesco.com/buyersguide/lcd%20versus%20plasma%20tv.aspx
tom_beverley
07-08-08, 04:26 PM
Aren't they reported to have a relatively short lifespan since they are organic though Woody? lol
LCD does win over plasma though IMO.
wisewood
07-08-08, 04:31 PM
The initial OLED tech published lasted around 30,000 hours compared to around 50,000 for current LCD's... but there have been improvements in OLED technology as they develop it for bigger screens to make it run in line with, if not better, the current LCD life cycles.
By the time the OLED screens are released to the masses i would expect 50,000 hours to be the minimum.
edit: If further proof were needed, which it shouldnt be, i deal only in fact, check the link below. A story from Oct 07 stating that Epson had developed a 50,000 hour display.
http://www.physorg.com/news111673832.html
depends on the size aswell , we bought a new plasma one a few month ago ,50" looks spot on lol
Whatever tv you buy, don't buy one till you have looked on www.pricerunner.co.uk (http://www.pricerunner.co.uk).
I bought mine off there recently, paid just over £500 for a 42 inch LCD Samsung, they delivered it 3 days later and it turned up first thing.
I also saw a 50" panasonic plasma on there for £400, believe it or not.
LEWI007
07-08-08, 07:36 PM
Plasma's break easy. LCD FTW !
Stanley
07-08-08, 07:54 PM
Plasma's have a higher contrast ratio (clearer/sharper picture)
Plasma's cannot be tilted forward or backward (so if you knock it over on the way home for example, its goosed, beyond return)
Plasma's get 'screen burn' where images are actually burnt onto the screen
Kids love to throw Nintendo Wii controllers through Plasma TV's.
Plasma units are at the bottom of the pile LCD's in the middle and OLED's are the future.
So for now LCD until OLED becomes cheaper.
Aye, LCD for now then OLED in the future, plasma would be 3rd choice.
I have a 42" Toshiba Regaza? LCD downstairs and I can't fault it. Chose it because of the vibrancy of the picture in comparison to Sony/Panasonic etc.
Also have a 42" Hitatchi plasma upstairs, this thing is old! Over 6 y/o and apart from a couple of vertical flickering bars on a rare occasion it is still going strong, and has been layed down flat etc with no ill effects.
The prices are very good now, I paid 850ish for the Toshiba LCD when it was 1100 in the shops, now is about 6/700 iirc. The Hitatchi was about 2500 new :S
I have not seen any tech drop in price as quick as flat panel TV's. Which can only be a good thing :)
loggyboy
08-08-08, 09:38 AM
after extensive research with my father in law before purchasing his, it was our firm opinion that the Panasonic Viera plasmas (768 HD) were the best when used with mixed sources (ie some SD, some HD) If you ONLY have HD sources then its worth paying more for a 1080HD and sadly the panansonic Full HDs are very expensive.
What! LCD Better than Plasma. I've had two sony 42" LCD one a 720 and the other 1080, I have now got a 50" Pioneer Plasma 1080 PDPLX5090 and its far better than both LCDs. They may have a shorter life span but who wants a TV longer than 5 years anyway, and by that time you'll want a new one anyway. The technology is cheaper in LCD and i'm using OLCD technology in some of my recently designed displays for use with intelligent building controls.
If you have some cash Sharp just released its 108" LCD.
If you want a good deal check out http://www.richersounds.com/home.php
wisewood
08-08-08, 11:15 AM
I NEED that 108" LCD. It would take up ALL of a wall in my living room. Home cinema FTW.
Ahhh good old Richer Sounds, I remember the days when they would sell nothing but hi-fi, then they got a few home cinema amps/walkman tv's in and said worry not, we aren't changing into another faceless flat panel tv dealer! Our main product will still be hi-fi...
Yeah well that was BS, but at least they still offer you sweet deals, albeit mostly on TV's.
I remember buying a DVD player from there in about '00 for 500 quid, 100 less than at the Sony Centre, and all because it was a grey import.
Bargains to be had :)
Its a tasty bit of kit, Canary wharf are pricing a job with me they are fitting one in there reception to show how much energy the building is saving.
wisewood
08-08-08, 12:36 PM
How much energy it is saving as compared with what? what they would be using if EVERYTHING in the building was turned on?
I dont get it lol
brainsnova
08-08-08, 12:37 PM
L.C.D is a safe bet for reliability. Plasma is old hat :D
Also if your a cheap skate lcd uses alot less power than plasma's!
Ahhh good old Richer Sounds, I remember the days when they would sell nothing but hi-fi, then they got a few home cinema amps/walkman tv's in and said worry not, we aren't changing into another faceless flat panel tv dealer! Our main product will still be hi-fi...
Yeah well that was BS, but at least they still offer you sweet deals, albeit mostly on TV's.
I remember buying a DVD player from there in about '00 for 500 quid, 100 less than at the Sony Centre, and all because it was a grey import.
Bargains to be had :)
Or had the romote missing. I just got a massive deal on a Blu-ray player sony's BDPS500 awsome.
hendrix
08-08-08, 03:20 PM
Thinking of getting a Technika 42" LCD one from Tesco this weekend. Only £399. Look pretty good picture quality tbh, comparable to the LG one below it which is £799 iirc.
I know the speakers will be pi$$ poor but will be putting it through a decent surround system.
Anyone know if these TV's are any good?
wisewood
08-08-08, 03:24 PM
From experience i would say dont try and buy a cheap brand with a similar spec and expect it to perform as well as a more expensive one. It might be adequate and look similar quality in the store but in reality, once you are away from the area of the store where the lighting is optimised for the screens on display etc you're much better off treating with the attitude of "you get what you pay for".
We bought a cheap 32" lcd a couple of years ago and i wish we'd waited and spent twice as much.
hendrix
08-08-08, 03:34 PM
I'm trying to research what chipsets it uses to be able to compare it but having no luck.
My next door neighbour has a poverty spec LCD tv and he took the back off it to find it was all Sharp gear.
But yeah you're prob right, you do get what you pay for
wisewood
08-08-08, 03:39 PM
I dont mind what chips etc are being used in mine, they can be panasonic for all i care, but its a poverty spec tv and you can see that the image just isnt what you would want. But its a couple of years old - so what was poverty spec then is obsolete now and what was 800 quid then will be only 400 now, i suppose.
Or had the romote missing. I just got a massive deal on a Blu-ray player sony's BDPS500 awsome.
Very true, returns, no boxes etc lol. That's a nice player mate, how much did you get it for? I bet those that bought HDDVD are wounded now.
Whatever tv you buy, don't buy one till you have looked on www.pricerunner.co.uk (http://www.pricerunner.co.uk).
I bought mine off there recently, paid just over £500 for a 42 inch LCD Samsung, they delivered it 3 days later and it turned up first thing.
I also saw a 50" panasonic plasma on there for £400, believe it or not.
Pricerunner is a comparison site, you won't buy from them, but they'll forward you to a retailler. And no doubt earn comission off your sale :p
If you want a decent cashback website, take a look on quidco.
LCD everytime. Theyre repairable when the screen breaks. The average working life for a plasma is under 3 years :thumb:
jimbob-mcgrew
09-08-08, 12:38 AM
personally i dont think lcd's and plasma's can even test the oldskool tellys.
you can view them from any angle in the room, they dont suffer from that blocky looking pixellated image and you wont find random dead pixels either, they use light instead of data down multiple cables so the refresh times are quicker which is good if youve got an external amp or 5.1 setup to synch the sound, the colour settings can be fine tuned alot better, and to top it off there a fraction of the price, go down to a local cash converters and can pick up a prety hefty sized one for £25 ! probably a fifth of the price of an equivalent pre-owned lcd/plasma. you know it makes sense.
coupla bad points tho, ill have to admit, they take up more room and there f00kin heavy, not such a bad thing if your settled comfortably in a house, but if your mooving around often, that can take the piss.
brainsnova
09-08-08, 01:31 AM
how do you wall mount those kind lol lol
You smash a hole in the wall and claim your rear projection is a super fly flat panel lol
loggyboy
09-08-08, 01:38 AM
LCD everytime. Theyre repairable when the screen breaks. The average working life for a plasma is under 3 years :thumb:
Most Panasonics come with a 5 yr manufacturers guarantee.
I'm trying to research what chipsets it uses to be able to compare it but having no luck.
My next door neighbour has a poverty spec LCD tv and he took the back off it to find it was all Sharp gear.
But yeah you're prob right, you do get what you pay for
Yeah the **** sharpe parts that they developed, found they werent that good and sold off at a bargain price. Or were last years (or more) parts. Like Daewoo did with the astra and proton did with the Elan
Hmm. For the price of a decent LCD/Plasma, could you not just get a decent projector?
Movies filling a wall FTW lol
Yeh man, you can get some decent HD projectors sub £1000
I'd go and take a very good look around here before buying anything A/V related - http://www.avforums.com/
i got my 46" lcd today :D :thumb:
its not staying there though, its going on the wall
http://i69.photobucket.com/albums/i49/conad/DSC00464.jpg
You need to tidy your room
you need to tidy your bedroom
Stop copying me tilly lol
posted at exactly the same time
1st the worst 2nd the best LOL
everythings everywhere because iv brought loads of stuff from my gf house and im in the middle of movving my room round (vinyls everywhere)
so...:p
umm clothes could be folded and put away neatly, youd be suprised if you just shut draws and doors how much better it looks :op
Yeah, don't make excuses.
And Tilly, oh my god, we used to sing that in junior school lol
Third is the one with the hairy chest... lol
wisewood
14-08-08, 10:40 PM
omg wtf are you talking about??
Look it up in the big book of wisewood.
wisewood
14-08-08, 11:15 PM
to be fair, from a n00b, that was pretty funny.
L33 LEG
15-08-08, 12:12 AM
Yeh man, you can get some decent HD projectors sub £1000
I'd go and take a very good look around here before buying anything A/V related - http://www.avforums.com/
best thing said in the thread :thumb:
no matter what you buy, you will always want bigger. so just go for the biggest to begin with, get a projector and make it fill ur wall. and the picture quality really surprised me, i love mine!
couple of pics:
http://i72.photobucket.com/albums/i184/L33LEG/new%20house%20project/P1011282.jpg
http://i72.photobucket.com/albums/i184/L33LEG/new%20house%20project/P1011288.jpg
Rear projection is the way forward. Ive started mincing about with a 1080p projector and DNP's latests GWA (giant wide angle) screens. Its pretty fapping mind blowing tbh. 12v lamp technology is starting to increase lamp life as well now.
Ive alm,ost lost touch with LCD technology due to working with projectors so much, but I know for a fact a Plasm just cant produce a decent black no matter how hard you try. Id take LCD over plasma any day. Plasmas run uber hot and are prone to pixel loss as well as sucking in most of the rooms dust due to the amount of fannage they have to incorporate. Years ago I opened up a screen and half filled a carrier bag with dust!!
hendrix
15-08-08, 08:47 AM
L33LEG
Thats fapping awesome!!!!!!! :thumb:
I'd love a setup like that....spose there always is the spare room.
Lee, cheers for that, thats the ammo I've been needing to shut the missus stepdad up heheeh
loggyboy
15-08-08, 09:24 AM
but I know for a fact a Plasm just cant produce a decent black no matter how hard you try. Id take LCD over plasma any day.
I think you have that the wrong way round.. its plasmas that create deeper blacks, LCDs can only manage dark grey.
I think you have that the wrong way round.. its plasmas that create deeper blacks, LCDs can only manage dark grey.
Sorry, your right. Shows how long its been since Ive farted about with screens :roll:
wisewood
15-08-08, 09:44 AM
The reason LCD can't produce a true black is because behind the screen there is a dirty great big illuminated panel, so the best you get is black with a light behind it.
There is technology on the way that will compensate for this but its a long way off and OLED will be out by then anyway.
meh after over a decade of masturbation my eyes are sufficiently fuggered that LCD is fine for me at 720P :D lol.
most people wont be able to tell the difference between 720P and 1080P (ignore 1080i its a waste of time as it goes blurry ime) so ****ing off over differing ranges of black etc is largely irrelevant too lol
lol yeah plasma's do give a miles better black , that was one of the reasons i went for mine ,
and as said who wants the same size telle in 5 years lol , i sure dont haha
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v13/riggy4/Image684.jpg
need it on the wall soon though but its a frame with plaster so will have to cut through and put something to the brick first lol
Projection is the way forward. Ive started mincing about with a 1080p projector and DNP's latests GWA (giant wide angle) screens. Its pretty fapping mind blowing tbh. 12v lamp technology is starting to increase lamp life as well now.
Ive alm,ost lost touch with LCD technology due to working with projectors so much, but I know for a fact a Plasm just cant produce a decent black no matter how hard you try. Id take LCD over plasma any day. Plasmas run uber hot and are prone to pixel loss as well as sucking in most of the rooms dust due to the amount of fannage they have to incorporate. Years ago I opened up a screen and half filled a carrier bag with dust!! Projectors YES
Rear projection tv's are toss
Projectors YES
Rear projection tv's are toss
Im not talking about rear projection TV's, which use god awful diffusion screens and useless projectors.
DNP sreens have properly cut lenticulars. You can NOT beat the image you get from them :) Add them to 12K's worth of Christie projector and you have the ultimate viewing image IMO. Not quite in our budget though, but as with all stuff, proces will significantly drop as time goes on, hense why i said its the future ;)
This was an install I was involved in at Microsoft in Dublin. The projectors we used weren't particularly great either lol
http://www.rearpro.com/uploaded/gallery/PIMG1_microsoft%20-%20service%20solutions%201.jpg
No.. THIS is showing off. We couldnt do a test build at the workshop because it was too fapping big lol. We shipped it to Denmark untested and it worked like a dream. But again, the client scrimped on the projector spec, which is the norm unfortunately.
http://www.rearpro.com/uploaded/gallery/PIMG1_DSCN2980%20crop.JPG
Is that you in the pic with some porn star glasses on lol.
No, I didnt install, I just helped build it :)
No, I didnt install, I just helped build it :)
did it throw a rod and stop in a cloud of smoke soon after first start? :p
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