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As a lot of you already know, iv had problems with my engine lately.
so......
iv decided to take the car off the road for a while, iv found myself a new car (mk4 astra) and im going to play with the nova, i may as well go the whole hog and do the whole car.
My aim.... to make a spotless nova with all the grunt and stopping power to match.
As this would be the biggest 'project' iv ever undertaken im going to need a lot of help from you guys. Im a fabricator by trade so you could say im quite good with my hands, i know my way round a nova but im only a begginer when it comes to really technical engine side of things.
before any work starts i need to clear my garage and paint floor and walls white, and fit some more lighting ready for home for the next few possible years...
... so watch this space
what plans have you got for the engine?its a 2.0 turbo isnt it?
vaughanmc
22-07-08, 01:31 PM
Will be nice to see this Nova evolve yet again :)
Good luck with it all mate!
The Simps
22-07-08, 04:08 PM
What problems you had with the engine mate?
good luck with the project and don't worry about not knowing things as by the end of the project you'll know loads!
what plans have you got for the engine?its a 2.0 turbo isnt it?
well 'MAD rick' has given me a perfect starting point :-
Phase 2 or 3.5,
Coscast head,
Decent turbo setup (rebuilt kkk or T3/35),
F28 with a quaife diff,
Enlarged top hat,
Decked and bored block.
The following parts for security:
Steel rods,
VGC stock pistons or fresh ones off steveboyslim,
Cometic gasket,
Balanced bottom end,
Possibly oil sprayers,
Z20LET oil pump.
What problems you had with the engine mate?
good luck with the project and don't worry about not knowing things as by the end of the project you'll know loads!
http://www.pngclub.com/forum/showthread.php?t=101529&page=4
The Simps
22-07-08, 09:08 PM
Have the block checked mate but it takes a lot to warp one imo. Just make sure you spend plenty of time rubbing down the block surface to bare metal and the same with the head. The standard gaskets are ok. The have like a film on them which when the engine is heated for the 1st time helps to create the seal. You then need to whip the cam cover off and do the last stage of the head bolt tightening.
Rick's spot on with the spec. Mine was plenty fun on p2 and reasonably driveable.
P2 is more reliable than p3.5 and you can get copy chips off ebay for £50 that work fine.
F28 & diff is great.
Ideally need to uprate the turbo. The standard kkk's will smoke after a while on anything oter than standard boost. Hybrid keeps setup nice and simple.
Get a decent fuel pump & regulator.
If you can afford steel rods etc then great, but not overly necessary on p2 imo. Better spent on suspension/brake mods.
to be honnest im bored and fancy my first proper project, im not planning on using the nova much so want it looking and performing as well as it possible can without overdoing it.
well the suspension is already s**t hot (avo coilovers) so no need to worry there.
the brakes, a big problem in my opinion, so i feel a decent set of 4pots and rear discs conversion is nessesery.
i do plan to replace most things for new over time as im not really setting myself a timelimit or budget... if it needs doing.. do it!
vaughanmc
22-07-08, 10:40 PM
Your Nova has rear turrets mate doesn't it ?
yeah, saved me alot of hassle. why you ask?
vaughanmc
22-07-08, 10:48 PM
Just wondering mate - I seen the WIP the previous owner done (can't remember his name, sorry) but I don't think I seen them finished..
Er pictures??
of the turrets?
il take some tommorrow, but il go try and find 'the valet man' thread.
edit: http://www.migweb.co.uk/forums/projects-restorations/313728-nova-turbo-9.html
The Simps
23-07-08, 08:03 AM
well the suspension is already s**t hot (avo coilovers) so no need to worry there.
What I had on mine! Excellent coilovers imo.
You got top mounts too? If not - GET SOME!!!
You got top mounts too? If not - GET SOME!!!
Worth the £80ish??
i havn't no, what are the major advantages?
and how do they fit, i always thought they were welded on, but they are made of aluminium.
They fit same as std(but with bolts into the mount), damper bolts into the middle bearing.
And the mount then bolts to the turret
:confused: il have to go have a look, im probably being stupid here but i didnt think the top of the turrets were removable?
Rick Draper
23-07-08, 05:17 PM
If you do change the turbo and dont fancy a kkk hybrid then heres what i would go for:
T3 or a T34 on a Nortech manifold like turbogavs on mig as you could keep the slam panel pretty much as stock. Jay at Nortech could also make the turbo hug the block so it would all fit quite easy.
well im a fabricator myself so fancy the idea of making my own manifold
The Simps
23-07-08, 11:39 PM
Worth the £80ish??
Defo!!
Gave me more thread on the coilovers as the bearing sits higher so they weren't bottoming out anymore. You are then of course able to adjust camber.
as iv said, im still learning when it comes to the more technical side of things.
iv just been having a browse at some new turbos and dont understand something, whats this all about :-
Turbine Housing Options
.63ar Turbine housing
.48ar Turbine housing
.82ar Turbine housing
.78ar Turbine housing (only available with divided T3 housing option)
craig green
04-08-08, 12:14 PM
Vauxsport.com is your best bet for tech advice of that nature.
Theres a good thread by Chip about how to read 'turbo compressor maps' & spec a turbo to your engine.
as pm'd let me know if need a hand, if need rods etc pm steveboyslim.
only live down in hawarden, so not too far from ya
well.... theres a slight change of plan.
im a really impatient person, an i'm dying to drive the nova again for one more summer before i start the rebuild. but this means i have to get the thing road worthy, so a good friend is doing my head gasket for me and doing the m.o.t aswell. before all that though, iv got to sort the quite serious crack that have formed at the front of the car. being a fabricator by trade im tackling this myself, started today by having a little clean and a poke about, iv tig welded 1 of the cracks already, and some parts are dangerously thin, think im going to make some extra plates to add some extra support. il update more later/tomorrow.
http://i69.photobucket.com/albums/i49/conad/DSC00523.jpg
http://i69.photobucket.com/albums/i49/conad/DSC00530.jpg
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http://i69.photobucket.com/albums/i49/conad/DSC00542.jpg
The Simps
22-03-09, 12:46 PM
There's a lot of strain on the front member. I had to brace mine with 4mm plate in the end.
well, it was so bad on the passengers side that i made i new piece and welded it in, the metal is so thin it was nearly imposible. so iv done my best at chasing all the crack with a tig welder. iv chipped all the filler away under my bonnet to check the cracks that had formed but all was fine so iv made a mess for nothing :cry:
heres a few pics.
http://i69.photobucket.com/albums/i49/conad/DSC00549.jpg
http://i69.photobucket.com/albums/i49/conad/DSC00551.jpg
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I'v just arranged with a mate to do my head gasket in 2 weeks, can anyone suggest a good uprated head gasket and where to source one from?
krobinson
05-05-09, 08:18 PM
How's this looking now?
well, the lad who's doing the head gasket needed a kick up the ****, he's suposed to be starting it this weekend.
im working solid nights for the next 7 weeks so i'v barely got any time as im either working or sleeping, but i really need to start polishing the polished speedlines. under theengine bay will look rough because of the big patch where iv removed the filler so they'l be my 'focal point' for this show season lol
craig green
08-05-09, 10:10 AM
Who created the intercooler space in the x-member & added the filler?
Looks a shocking bad job, I assume you will be putting that right?
http://www.migweb.co.uk/forums/projects-restorations/313728-nova-turbo.html
when the project starts properly at the end of this year, the car will have a whole new front end :thumb:
whos doing the head matey? i remember last year when at darcys seeing all that filling thinking wtf you bought. no offence but as you guessed it was dodgy!
like ive told jason. if need any engine work and actually doing, unlike darcy telling u it'll be done this weeknd, next weekend, etc, drop a pm or get jason to text...and it'll be a proper job.
2 mates of mine, they work in L&D BROTHERS in wrexham.
cheers pal, i'll keep you in mind. Darcey takes the p!ss mate, there was a point where i thought i wasnt making it to PV, and i dont think he did it properly, it broke to soon after him doing it.
work has finally started an im taking the head to be skimmed today :)
http://i69.photobucket.com/albums/i49/conad/DSC00623.jpg
yeah i know about the head and that.
as i said to jason, if want a proper job he should of text me. it wouldof been on the road within a couple of weeks of having it, not nearly 3monthslol
which heads getting skimmed? not the one that darcy fitted is it?
garethcolley
22-05-09, 12:24 PM
I'v just arranged with a mate to do my head gasket in 2 weeks, can anyone suggest a good uprated head gasket and where to source one from?
I bought 2 x Z20LET steel gaskets from autovaux. Then split them and made a 5 layer one in the same order as it came. Worked a treat and all my mates have used them since they came out.
dont trust the zlet gaskets from what ive seen.(own opinion)
either oem goetze one which should be fine for power your running or a proper metal one. 2.0mm cometic
just rang the company who have my head and they havn't even started it, they've had it over a week, told me to ring back on tuesday :cry:
what are they doing to it?
just ive rebuilt and fully ported darcys new LET head and another xe head in 4days! did put in 2 all nighters, but both as new.
if want it doing next week let me know. im working over weekend, but if had it mon night, could prob have it stripped, checked and built for tues night. (unless having guides done then douobt could get it done before PV)
all its having is a pressure test, skim and valve stem oil seals, and i had to drive for 45 minutes to take it there, was told they do a good job.... service is awfull. im regreting it all now, wish you had told me sooner.
gutting matey. only down in hawarden, could of been done in a day, and looking like a new head!
anything headwise/engine wise let me know next time. will be able to help you out.
out of interest how much are they charging?
£90 just for the work to the head
krobinson
03-01-10, 06:39 PM
Any updates??
thanks for showing an interest keith, im one of those people who takes forever and a day to get things done. iv made a slight effort to 'transform' my garage into a decent workplace by dribling a bit of paint on the floor and walls lol. im making a bit of a fresh start this year (quit the dope) so hopefully, that combined with the mrs in my ear will help me to get the kick up the **** i need.
im affraid the 1st jobs on the car will have to be the free ones though, 'cos if you've read 1 of my other threads, iv had my bike stolen, so thats 1st on the money criteria im affraid.
RossRog
09-02-11, 09:31 AM
Hiya mate,
remeber you were round sam hall's house about 2 months ago i think.. well i was his mate with the loon, got an xe van now. still trying to get sam to buy a nova!
I'd love to see your nova back mate, it looked the nuts! anything i can help with let me know..
hey pal, hows things. get some pics up of the van, id love 1, bet it goes like poop off a shovel. well at the minute mines in pieces, took the engine out last week (first time iv ever taken an engine out), and iv stripped all the bay back to re-weld it. looks scarey as fook seeing it in such a state! hopefully get some pics up later.
RossRog
09-02-11, 11:06 AM
i'd hate to take an engine out, it looks like there is alot of work ahead of you sure it would be worth it though, i think my van is fast but i could not imagine a let haha! i've got a progress thing of the van but it only got a few bad pictures inside it, there are some on facebook. i'l get some at the weekend get a better camera..
could just make a random appearance one night, if your ever at home dan? i really wanna see the let in the flesh!
SAM!!! arent you on the wrong forum here..... 2 wheeled traitor! theres nothing to see at the minute pal, it really is in a million pieces.
hey! im doing my pcv licence so i can earn a bit more dosh to run both, so by the end of the year, i'll fit right in! but for now it 2 wheels or less :D
MattBrown
09-02-11, 10:07 PM
Only down the road.
I know Darcy fairly well too!
Looks good, cross member doesn't look to strong though!
that was last year, im cutting it out to make something up myself, looks like shortcuts have been made in the past! i might pick your brain in the future seen as your only in chester.
MattBrown
10-02-11, 09:53 AM
that was last year, im cutting it out to make something up myself, looks like shortcuts have been made in the past! i might pick your brain in the future seen as your only in chester.
No worries, I'll pop round some time for a brew/mince in the garage:)
didnt think you still had this, the car shud never of ran with the head thats on it though(if still the coscast...id look at changing it matey)
krobinson
10-02-11, 10:49 PM
Woohoo!! Progress'
didnt think you still had this, the car shud never of ran with the head thats on it though(if still the coscast...id look at changing it matey)
what makes ya say that mate, coscast are better arent they.... unless you know something i dont about this 1
Woohoo!! Progress'
slow and steady wins the race eh.... im certainly in no rush
Tommy_nova
10-02-11, 11:49 PM
Dan theres a kid on here with some cheapish gsi skirts snap them up dude
http://www.pngclub.com/forum/showthread.php?t=164241
head had over heated before it was fitted and i dont think it has that much meat left on it..had discolouration between 2/3 and 3/4 cylinders where the alloy was alot lighter.
has the gasket gone again btw since it was done? just i had to rebuild jasons old mk3 LET last year for a lad in the quay that darcy rebuilt and that had a bent rod when i stripped it. but i know he did a bit of a bodge on that to one of the rods.
krobinson
03-05-11, 12:27 PM
Progress??
MattBrown
03-05-11, 12:39 PM
Agreed Keith!!
well..... as we can see, this hasnt gone anywhere, fast! A few of you will know im off work at the minute due to a shoulder operation which means i cant ride/race my bike, thats usually where ALL my money goes. so now i've got nothing better to do than sit at home and scour the internet i've had a second wind with the nova. so heres my update :thumb:
I've just had 'philip' come round to my house and i've just bought a fresh new engine off him (yet to change hands but its MINE :d)
i've bought myself a welder as my mate had his back ages ago so i havnt been able to do anything even if i wanted to.
i've bought myself a nice new compressor with air tools to help me along the way.
im trying to source a new lower panel (reinforced) and n/s front wing as cheap as possible, im not bothered about it being pattern parts. so if anyone can tell me anywhere cheaper than THIS (http://www.carz2.co.uk/6220201-nova-lower-front-panel-complete-p-6303.html) i would much appreciate it
i've also got philip on the case for a new lsd and equal shaft setup for me so hopefully things are starting to shape up and i've got the enthusiasm back to start working on it again, going to get a small tv and comfy chair in the garage for the mrs to keep her happy too :thumb:
Just purchased a half shaft and bracket :-D
well I've made LOADS of progress today, I've been a busy boy! I even managed to take a few snaps as I went along.
so I decided to go the whole hog and replace the complete front panel, and thought it would be easier to weld up and ad plates while it was off the car. I didn't want to buy any strengthening plates as I knew I could make them and luckily found some 3mm galvanised plate in the garage... better safe than sorry eh.
http://i69.photobucket.com/albums/i49/conad/20130501_120829.jpg (http://s69.photobucket.com/user/conad/media/20130501_120829.jpg.html)
I stitched the whole thing and gave it some primer, might not be needed but I wanted to play with my new welder lol
http://i69.photobucket.com/albums/i49/conad/20130501_173840.jpg (http://s69.photobucket.com/user/conad/media/20130501_173840.jpg.html)
the bay had been smoothed off in the past, so it was a right pain in the bum sanding/chiselling/wire wheeling it all off, but lets just say the job underneath was well.... rough! its not rotten at all but it just doesn't seem to make sense where its been welded in the past... making it bloody hard for me!!
http://i69.photobucket.com/albums/i49/conad/20130501_173855.jpg (http://s69.photobucket.com/user/conad/media/20130501_173855.jpg.html)
http://i69.photobucket.com/albums/i49/conad/20130501_173901.jpg (http://s69.photobucket.com/user/conad/media/20130501_173901.jpg.html)
following the article on here (what a god send) I started to drill out all the spot welds to get the old panel off. very daunting and making me think 'what have I got myself into' lol I've left the lower crossmember on for now as im going to brace the bay with wood between the engine mounts to stop any unwanted movement.
http://i69.photobucket.com/albums/i49/conad/20130501_184051.jpg (http://s69.photobucket.com/user/conad/media/20130501_184051.jpg.html)
http://i69.photobucket.com/albums/i49/conad/20130501_194502.jpg (http://s69.photobucket.com/user/conad/media/20130501_194502.jpg.html)
http://i69.photobucket.com/albums/i49/conad/20130501_194514.jpg (http://s69.photobucket.com/user/conad/media/20130501_194514.jpg.html)
I took a picture of inside the chassis leg (I think that's what its called lol) as I was pleasantly suprised at how clean it was.
http://i69.photobucket.com/albums/i49/conad/20130501_194539.jpg (http://s69.photobucket.com/user/conad/media/20130501_194539.jpg.html)
and heres the hard bit, not sure how im going to get this apart yet as the strengthening plate has overlapped and been welded to the bit I need to remove... fun times lay ahead tomorrow
http://i69.photobucket.com/albums/i49/conad/20130501_194606.jpg (http://s69.photobucket.com/user/conad/media/20130501_194606.jpg.html)
http://i69.photobucket.com/albums/i49/conad/20130501_194611.jpg (http://s69.photobucket.com/user/conad/media/20130501_194611.jpg.html)
ideally while the front end is off and ive got easy access in here id like to clean and protect it... any ideas????
http://i69.photobucket.com/albums/i49/conad/20130501_194524.jpg (http://s69.photobucket.com/user/conad/media/20130501_194524.jpg.html)
Clearing would be very hard, i'd spray some kinda primer up there. There as much waxall/underseal of chose up there as you can.
I've been trying to do as much research as possible on all this waxoil/underseal/seamseal/stone chip ****e and finding it all a bit confusing as there's so much choice. I'm going to need something I can paint over as I'm going to do under the car, in rear arches, splash guards ect. I'm also a bit confused as the the order it goes on the body. Am I right with seam seal all the seams, then underseal everything, then stone chip, then primer and paint?
I use a spray etch/epoxy primer, then seam seal, then under seal and the paint.
Most "cavity" waxes are the same really,
Underseal, the better you can afford really, I recomend any of the 3M sealants. THey are all over paint able.
Cheers Benn... Best get spending hadn't I lol how much will I need to do 1 car, I've seen the underseal sold in packs of 6 600ml cans but get the feeling that's too much.
novadave24
02-05-13, 02:22 PM
nice buld mate :)
Cheers Benn... Best get spending hadn't I lol how much will I need to do 1 car, I've seen the underseal sold in packs of 6 600ml cans but get the feeling that's too much.
The more the better in my eyes, the one i use comes in bags, i used 2/3 on the boot floor, 2 on each front arch... So you'll want alot.
Southie
02-05-13, 07:32 PM
Wow you've got some work on your hands, looking forward to seeing you sort it out though.
Cheers for the comments guys 'some work' is a bloody understatement though lol had a friggin nightmare today. So, I've braced the bay with wood to stop any unwanted movement and attacked the crossmember with a grinder lol then spent hours with a drill and chisel trying to get the awkward bits out. Word of advice for anyone thinking of giving this a go.... DON'T!!! Also, as I took all the filler off, it's turns out whoever fitted the strengthening plates can't weld for sh!t as there no fusion at all, just blobs on 1 side of the steel so the plates just peel off (can be seen in the last pics. I could start welding the new panel on tomorrow but decided I was to hammer the insides with underseal first, so until Mr postman bring it to my door that's it front panel wise. I might take the rear beam off tomorrow to strip it for powder coating.
http://i69.photobucket.com/albums/i49/conad/20130502_123806.jpg
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I recomend any of the 3M sealants. THey are all over paint able.
I've just checked and it says not overpaintable :cry:
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/6-x-3M-Car-Body-Schutz-Black-Underseal-Underbody-Coating-Gun-08861-/180932600354?pt=UK_Body_Shop_Supplies_Paint&hash=item2a206c6222
Tommy_nova
02-05-13, 11:07 PM
Good to see your cracking in dude bout time dan
Tell me about it. It's because I'm off work and can't ride my bike so my attentions gone elsewhere lol
I've just checked and it says not overpaintable :cry:
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/6-x-3M-Car-Body-Schutz-Black-Underseal-Underbody-Coating-Gun-08861-/180932600354?pt=UK_Body_Shop_Supplies_Paint&hash=item2a206c6222
Oh, i've not found an 3M stuff that isn't. I'd keep looking. I'm guessing the "asphalt-based" means its a tar like non drying stuff.
I might just buy that for under the car and inside the bodywork, then buy some of the aerosol Paintable 3m stuff for the arches.
I cant seem to find any paintable 3m stuff anywhere.... anyone know of anywhere that's not in America?
I'll find you a pic of what i use.
Love the build mate, this is the stuff i use http://item.mobileweb.ebay.co.uk/viewitem?itemId=261152338828
been in the garage again today for a few hours but didn't take a lot of pictures as im not well and feeling grumpy lol .... just wanted to work on the car!
I cut out a hefty crack that had gotten the rust bug and cut out a patch to suit. I don't know why, but it was REALLY hard to weld even though I cleaned it loads with a wire wheel (obviously not enough)
http://i69.photobucket.com/albums/i49/conad/20130510_125550.jpg (http://s69.photobucket.com/user/conad/media/20130510_125550.jpg.html)
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Then I set about putting the new front end on, wasn't as bad as I expected tbh, it took a little chopping but its on! I've only tacked it into place for now as I need some better lighting in the garage and its doing my nut in, so early Friday pub session it is!!
http://i69.photobucket.com/albums/i49/conad/20130510_153452.jpg (http://s69.photobucket.com/user/conad/media/20130510_153452.jpg.html)
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scorge01
11-05-13, 09:04 PM
Glad your rebuilding this just came across some old photo's was amazingly clean :)
Coming along well, front looks good.
Clean yes... Bodged yes lol no rust but cracks everywhere!
Cheers Benn, it feels good having progress.
scorge01
11-05-13, 09:19 PM
Clean yes... Bodged yes lol no rust but cracks everywhere!
Ah not so good but atleast its getting done properly now, are you planing on it looking same again?
Novaload_Nick
11-05-13, 10:46 PM
Good progress man
krobinson
12-05-13, 11:15 AM
So glad to see you're cracking on with the rebuild, looking forward to seeing it complete :D
Ah not so good but atleast its getting done properly now, are you planing on it looking same again?
Pretty much, maybe a few subtle changes but I loved the look of it when I bought it. It'll mainly be engine bay changes.
Good progress man
Cheers matey.
So glad to see you're cracking on with the rebuild, looking forward to seeing it complete :D
Hello again Keith, not seen you on here for a while. It feels good to get things finally moving, but I'm stressing like a biatch trying to make sure it's right. Lol
krobinson
12-05-13, 12:37 PM
Hello again Keith, not seen you on here for a while. It feels good to get things finally moving, but I'm stressing like a biatch trying to make sure it's right. Lol
Take your time, i'm sure it'll be a cracker when sorted! :D
This is what i use on the undersides.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v321/bennh/Car%20updates%20June%202011%20on/3Msealant3.jpg (http://smg.photobucket.com/user/bennh/media/Car%20updates%20June%202011%20on/3Msealant3.jpg.html)
cheers Benn, seen a few people use that, but it was going to cost more than I can afford at the minute. I heard great things about gravitex, and got a great deal, so went with that.
http://i69.photobucket.com/albums/i49/conad/20130510_111620.jpg (http://s69.photobucket.com/user/conad/media/20130510_111620.jpg.html)
Yeah it isnt cheap. Yep the gravitex isnt too bad.
been in the garage for the last 2 days, I did a fair bit of welding on the front panel... worrying that im doing it right lol. even though the weldings been pretty tough to do its still a million times better than the sh!t that was done before I had it (can ya tell im p!ssed off, you'll see in the pics later). but my welding wire ran out yesterday, so while I wait for the new reel to arrive I did LOADS of stripping today with my new grinder wire wheel. I also removed the loom, heater matrix, wipers, clutch cable, speedo cable, brake vacuum ect... all to make things a bit easier when painting. the amount of filler on the splash guards was unreal and was hiding some repairs I didn't know existed, but I am very happy at how clean the whole thing is though, not much repairing to do except fixing the dodgy welds and doing where was missed.... so here comes the pics.
firstly I wouldn't mind knowing whats been spliced into the plug that goes into the radiator... I think it goes to the alarm :tard:
http://i69.photobucket.com/albums/i49/conad/20130516_142958.jpg (http://s69.photobucket.com/user/conad/media/20130516_142958.jpg.html)
heres what my footwells now look like full of wiring loom lol
http://i69.photobucket.com/albums/i49/conad/20130516_145548.jpg (http://s69.photobucket.com/user/conad/media/20130516_145548.jpg.html)
http://i69.photobucket.com/albums/i49/conad/20130516_143416.jpg (http://s69.photobucket.com/user/conad/media/20130516_143416.jpg.html)
heres the passenger side, I've only stripped the seams for now as im going to stitch weld it, theres not a lot of filler on this side and only 1 patch
http://i69.photobucket.com/albums/i49/conad/20130516_173700.jpg (http://s69.photobucket.com/user/conad/media/20130516_173700.jpg.html)
heres some fine examples of the p!ss poor welding... no fussion at all, and you as you can see they totally missed on 1... shocking
http://i69.photobucket.com/albums/i49/conad/20130516_173726.jpg (http://s69.photobucket.com/user/conad/media/20130516_173726.jpg.html)
http://i69.photobucket.com/albums/i49/conad/20130516_173715.jpg (http://s69.photobucket.com/user/conad/media/20130516_173715.jpg.html)
passenger side lower arm mount
http://i69.photobucket.com/albums/i49/conad/20130516_173748.jpg (http://s69.photobucket.com/user/conad/media/20130516_173748.jpg.html)
this took me bloody ages as I started with a drill wire brush and there was LOADS of filler.... needless to say it was useless
http://i69.photobucket.com/albums/i49/conad/20130516_173827.jpg (http://s69.photobucket.com/user/conad/media/20130516_173827.jpg.html)
the strengthening plates that just were just peeling off, I've redone a bit but ran out of wire
http://i69.photobucket.com/albums/i49/conad/20130516_173854.jpg (http://s69.photobucket.com/user/conad/media/20130516_173854.jpg.html)
http://i69.photobucket.com/albums/i49/conad/20130516_173842.jpg (http://s69.photobucket.com/user/conad/media/20130516_173842.jpg.html)
drivers side splash guard... these are the repairs the 0.5" of filler were hiding
http://i69.photobucket.com/albums/i49/conad/20130516_173918.jpg (http://s69.photobucket.com/user/conad/media/20130516_173918.jpg.html)
http://i69.photobucket.com/albums/i49/conad/20130516_174104.jpg (http://s69.photobucket.com/user/conad/media/20130516_174104.jpg.html)
this seems to be the only real bit of rust I need to repair... not quite sure what to do as I don't want inside the hole to keep rotting... it was full of sealer until I pulled it all out
http://i69.photobucket.com/albums/i49/conad/20130516_174116.jpg (http://s69.photobucket.com/user/conad/media/20130516_174116.jpg.html)
and heres how she stands now
http://i69.photobucket.com/albums/i49/conad/20130516_174153.jpg (http://s69.photobucket.com/user/conad/media/20130516_174153.jpg.html)
this is monty dog, he's been keeping me company tied up by the garage door, believe it or not he's usually jet black but I gave him a fuss and I was covered in dust lol
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my new welding wire's arrived, but im not going in the garage today, my shoulder's killing me so best rest up
http://i69.photobucket.com/albums/i49/conad/20130517_110605.jpg (http://s69.photobucket.com/user/conad/media/20130517_110605.jpg.html)
Novaload_Nick
17-05-13, 01:59 PM
Crack on mate ;)
its too late now, I've got an appointment with the pub in 2 hours (pub on a Friday is the law) I might pop down to the paint supliers and get some epoxy primer though.
Screw the pub, waste of time that... Get cracking on the Nova.
Too late
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bazzap8389
17-05-13, 06:16 PM
^ fine :)
Build is looking good bud top work
Novaload_Nick
17-05-13, 06:27 PM
Had a coors light the other day for the first time in ages! Top beer
It's not bad, better than the sh!t fosters they serve in my local, only problem is its £3.43 a pint!!!!
Novaload_Nick
17-05-13, 07:54 PM
Ridiculous the price these days! I buy stumpy bottles from asda called le'bierre or something haha well nice!
im not much of a drinker, but we've got the 'after work club' in the local on a Friday lol
just been to pick this little lot up.... £101!!!!!!!!!! im going to crack on with some welding today and might make the cut out in the front panel for the IC.
http://i69.photobucket.com/albums/i49/conad/20130520_120944.jpg (http://s69.photobucket.com/user/conad/media/20130520_120944.jpg.html)
Novaload_Nick
20-05-13, 12:45 PM
£101 :o
I know, but its top notch stuff. I got to the paint suppliers and asked for epoxy, and he said 'jesus, what you painting??'.... 'a Vauxhall nova'..... 'ah, I see lol' turns out he knows my dad so did knock off 10% tbf
Epoxy primer, he's either painting a warship or trying to stop a Nova rusting lol
£101 with discount? Christ!
At least it will last some time tho.
Novaload_Nick
20-05-13, 03:55 PM
What's the benefit of expoxy primer? Just to try and prevent rust?
Epoxy primer, he's either painting a warship or trying to stop a Nova rusting lol
That's basically what he said.
£101 with discount? Christ!
At least it will last some time tho.
Yep, I don't mind paying for good stuff... Buy cheap buy twice.
He said its used to paints the local council salt wagons so it can't be too bad.
What's the benefit of expoxy primer? Just to try and prevent rust?
Yeah, other primers are porous and let moisture through... This stuff doesn't and is as hard as nails
did more welding yesterday, it seems to be never ending, but not long left now hopefully then its time to start getting my smooth on!
no matter how hard I try I just cant seem to get all the seams totally clean an I get the occasional sh!t weld, still its better than the previous work done.
http://i69.photobucket.com/albums/i49/conad/20130520_165951.jpg (http://s69.photobucket.com/user/conad/media/20130520_165951.jpg.html)
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I did happen to have a bit of a major fail oops moment (I know im an idiot before anyone states the obvious) I had a bucket of water with a big sponge to hand so no major damage done, just a bid of singed underlay. if this was twitter it would deserve a few of these #FAIL #BELLEND #IDIOT
http://i69.photobucket.com/albums/i49/conad/20130520_165919.jpg (http://s69.photobucket.com/user/conad/media/20130520_165919.jpg.html)
and finally I got busy cutting up my brand new front panel (it felt so so wrong) so now my IC fits lovely and snug
http://i69.photobucket.com/albums/i49/conad/20130520_170013.jpg (http://s69.photobucket.com/user/conad/media/20130520_170013.jpg.html)
Novaload_Nick
21-05-13, 12:38 PM
Good progress there mate, cut out in the front panel looks tidy
crazy man, cutting **** up is not wrong... it's fun :)
Good progress there mate, cut out in the front panel looks tidy
cheers buddy, I got the apprentice in work to fold me some galv sheet (and steal it lol) to keep the strength and save a bit of welding. (I bribed him with copius amounts of haribo)
crazy man, cutting **** up is not wrong... it's fun :)
very true, but after spending the amount of money I have lately on this front end, it just felt naughty
Novaload_Nick
21-05-13, 01:59 PM
Everyone's a sucker for haribo lol
has anyone had any experience with this stuff?
http://thumbs3.ebaystatic.com/d/l225/m/mA55u_QBhtQG1XA17LkPNqw.jpg
Done a bit to my digi dash today. I've had a go at pimping it up by adding a bit of carbon effect.
first made a paper template
http://i69.photobucket.com/albums/i49/conad/20130529_171915.jpg (http://s69.photobucket.com/user/conad/media/20130529_171915.jpg.html)
then I traced around it onto the back of the vinyl
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then stuck it onto the dash... using sh!t loads of window cleaner as lube lol
http://i69.photobucket.com/albums/i49/conad/20130529_192758.jpg (http://s69.photobucket.com/user/conad/media/20130529_192758.jpg.html)
next is the laborious task of trying to change the lcd colour... wish me luck
Southie
29-05-13, 08:21 PM
Buy a knackered digi dash first incase it all goes Pete Tong ;)
im willing to take my chances lol.... this was half inched many years ago from a scrappy, so no loss
Southie
29-05-13, 08:34 PM
Ah the good old days of borrowing things from scrappers, not that I condone such actions of course.
I was only 16 so its 11 years ago.... that's my excuse anyway lol
hit a problem already.... how the feck do I unscrew these buggers
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millworm
29-05-13, 08:41 PM
has anyone had any experience with this stuff?
http://thumbs3.ebaystatic.com/d/l225/m/mA55u_QBhtQG1XA17LkPNqw.jpg
I've used hammerite waxoyl witch is great for the underside and inside of doors ect. Much better than conventional under seal paint.
I've used hammerite waxoyl witch is great for the underside and inside of doors ect. Much better than conventional under seal paint.
im just using it as a cavity wax.... got gravitax as underseal.
Southie
29-05-13, 08:44 PM
I used a small flat head screwdriver and tapped gently (so not to damage them) with a small hammer to loosen them, then unscrew with some long nose pliers
millworm
29-05-13, 08:45 PM
if it's as good as waxoyl then it should be spot on for cavities, have you got all kit for spraying in cavities?
yep, got a spanking schutz gun with extension tube/nozzle/thingy
millworm
29-05-13, 08:50 PM
sweet should be spot on that stuff then
I've stripped down the digi dash in the attempt of changing the colour of the screen, wasn't as hard as I thought.... and I didn't break anything (result lol) now I've just got to wait for some acetate to arrive from ebay.
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Shame you can't buy the films anymore, saw some very cool ones years back. Good workstripping it all down.
Shame you can't buy the films anymore, saw some very cool ones years back. Good workstripping it all down.
I won some blue acetate on ebay yesterday so we'll see how that goes... only trouble is I cant test it once its done.
right, I did a looong shift on the nova today, took out the fuel tank, removed the rear axle and bumper, finished welding the front end, cut the front panel for easy access and got the filler in the engine bay.... progress progress progress
I was chuffed at seeing how clean the chassis is underneath it all, not a spot of rot, just a little surface rust
http://i69.photobucket.com/albums/i49/conad/20130603_152039.jpg (http://s69.photobucket.com/user/conad/media/20130603_152039.jpg.html)
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thought id show you all how lucky I am with my garage aswell, its massive tbf and I've just decked it out with loads of new shelving and new tools/welder/compressor
http://i69.photobucket.com/albums/i49/conad/20130603_195054.jpg (http://s69.photobucket.com/user/conad/media/20130603_195054.jpg.html)
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bazzap8389
03-06-13, 10:12 PM
Great work mate keep it up :thumb:
I'd love a garage with that space, I can only just walk down one side of the car in mine lol
Great work mate keep it up :thumb:
I'd love a garage with that space, I can only just walk down one side of the car in mine lol
Cheers shagga, been a busy day but I feel satisfied lol.
I'm really lucky with the garage, I still live with my mum and the garage has always been my space, she's got the shed lol
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Christ. Remember that the smoother and better you put filler in, the easier it is to rub out...
Christ. Remember that the smoother and better you put filler in, the easier it is to rub out...
Believe me I tried lol I've done it before with good results
Trouble was its that hot in the garage yesterday it was going off really quickly so I had to just be as quick as possible.
Less hardner then..lol are you using the longer side of the spreader to put it in? As you should, will help.
Coming along very well.
I can tell you from experience that with less hardener you can in fact make filler that won't go off in 2 days in 30 degree heat lol
Yeah that's going the other way of two little... Can be a tricky mix..
I've also seen someone paint a car in 2k without hardener, took about a week before it could be flatted back iirc lol
You got me there Benn, I was using the smaller end..... Doh! It's Ok though, as long as I've got my tunes and a can of coke I'll stay in the garage all day sanding lol
I've also seen someone paint a car in 2k without hardener, took about a week before it could be flatted back iirc lol
Yeah, if it's forgotten it can be a night mare. As it wont dry at all, there are few parts on the inside ofmine what where painted and the lacquer didn't have hardener in. Where painted 04.. Still soft to this day.
You got me there Benn, I was using the smaller end..... Doh! It's Ok though, as long as I've got my tunes and a can of coke I'll stay in the garage all day sanding lol
Ah, yeah easy and comon mistake. Always use the longer side you get a better run and a smoothing join/edge.
Just on the filler topic, number plates are awesome to do the side of a van lol lol
Nice project too, I shall look forward to your updates :)
Yeah, if it's forgotten it can be a night mare. As it wont dry at all, there are few parts on the inside ofmine what where painted and the lacquer didn't have hardener in. Where painted 04.. Still soft to this day.
Maybe they had to strip it back then, I was only there for the "did you put any hardener in it?" "oh ****" lol
Bearing in mind this was an outside respray on a whole car lol
got my monstrous new m16 rose joints in the post today for mgillan motorsport, and I've just spoke to the apprentice in work (im off at the moment) who's cut me 2 lengths of 25mm roundbar, a mate is going to machine the ends for me, then i'll have a super strong set of tie rods... the standard set snapped on me last time.
http://i69.photobucket.com/albums/i49/conad/20130605_112951.jpg (http://s69.photobucket.com/user/conad/media/20130605_112951.jpg.html)
so I started sanding down the filler in the engine bay today, only done the 1 side so far and in still need finishing, but you get the drift
http://i69.photobucket.com/albums/i49/conad/20130605_200606.jpg (http://s69.photobucket.com/user/conad/media/20130605_200606.jpg.html)
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I also started putting the filler on the splash guards, but ran out so popped out to buy some more when going for the steel
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http://i69.photobucket.com/albums/i49/conad/20130605_195628.jpg (http://s69.photobucket.com/user/conad/media/20130605_195628.jpg.html)
and here's the start of the trolly/spit
http://i69.photobucket.com/albums/i49/conad/20130605_195546.jpg (http://s69.photobucket.com/user/conad/media/20130605_195546.jpg.html)
Gotta say i wouldn't feel the splash guard, A med size stone might crack it..
Bay looks good.
Southie
05-06-13, 09:23 PM
Sanding back looks good, plenty of elbow grease then?
Looking forward to seeing how you get on with the spit ;)
Novaload_Nick
05-06-13, 09:25 PM
Good progress with the bay, are you planning on doing the underneath with the spit roast?
Gotta say i wouldn't feel the splash guard, A med size stone might crack it..
Bay looks good.
the splash guards were done before benn and covered with sh!t loads of stonechip with no problems at all. I want them looking perfect so the repair cant be seen.
Sanding back looks good, plenty of elbow grease then?
Looking forward to seeing how you get on with the spit ;)
elbow grease is an understatement lol
I was only going to make a trolly but after seeing the first pic that you gave me im going to make something similar to that. make a trolly that will attach to the chassis first to lift it to the right height then add the spit 'A frames' to each end, then cut off the trolly legs leaving a spit frame on wheels.
Good progress with the bay, are you planning on doing the underneath with the spit roast?
cheers buddy, I sure am
Southie
05-06-13, 09:35 PM
Sounds good, handy that picture also had all the windows and other bits still attached though as well ;)
novadave24
06-06-13, 04:50 PM
the engine bay looks really good mate :)
the engine bay looks really good mate :)
cheers matey, im getting there slowly.
Well I fancied doing an hour or so on the old girl but couldn't be bothered getting covered in filler dust today, so decided to carry on stripping it, got the seats and rear windows out, then came across a slight obstical.... How the hell am I going to get the front windows out with no power to wind them down??.... Ideas guys.
http://i69.photobucket.com/albums/i49/conad/20130607_124816.jpg
put a battery on it? :p Have you taken the window loom out or just not a battery in it?
Novaload_Nick
07-06-13, 03:34 PM
Build a little circuit with the switch and put it to a battery?
The loom is still in the car, just been pulled through into the interior, can I run an earth to anywhere on the body? As there's no earth cable now.
yeah just put the live onto your battery and use something reasonably substantial to earth the negative to the body.
Alternatively just touch a pair of jump leads to the electric window motor, but it will just run it at the full 12v and you'll probably find they shoot down quite quick lol
Cheers buddy I'll give it a try tomorrow, can try my new dash colour too.... Winner!
Power probe
You've lost me lol
At risk of me getting a short break from Png, type power probe 3 in to ebay
You can just use a drill battery to get the windows down. Connect two bits of wire the to window motor, then touch said wires to the contacts on a drill battery. Will put the window down quicker than normal.
At risk of me getting a short break from Png, type power probe 3 in to ebay
Had a looky, it's a posh circuit tester? Expensive too lol can it powertthings up too?
You can just use a drill battery to get the windows down. Connect two bits of wire the to window motor, then touch said wires to the contacts on a drill battery. Will put the window down quicker than normal.
Think I'm going to try connecting a battery up, want to try my Digi dash out aswell
Well I've connected a battery, and the internal light is coming on so I know there's power... But the dash doesn't come on and the windows won't work :-( aaaarrrhhhh!
Novaload_Nick
08-06-13, 02:43 PM
Ignition?
it worked fine before, and ive not disconnected anything from behind the dash. i'll have to take another look tomorrow as I'm busy now, but yeah I suppose it does point towards ignition problems.
Well I got the ignition on today and managed to get the front windows out.
I also managed to test the new colours on the dash, im not 100% happy so will take it apart and try again.... I also need to sort the dim rev counter side.
http://i69.photobucket.com/albums/i49/conad/20130612_161941.jpg
Southie
12-06-13, 07:00 PM
Liking the dials :)
Liking the dials :)
Cheers matey, still a bit of refinement yet though lol
Like the blue on the speedo bit.
The lighting seems great on the speedo and gauges (the gauges blue film need redoing to neaten it up though), but really dim on the rev counter... Investigation needed.
Novaload_Nick
12-06-13, 07:35 PM
Dash looks cool, but for some reason I still prefer dials
I've never had a Digi before so I'll try it out for a while... Didn't get rid of my snazzy dials though so can always swap back
Dash looks cool, but for some reason I still prefer dials
I'm dials all the way... Like watching needles reve up..lol
The only trouble is the speedo doesn't go high enough, took the needle back round to the stopper once so my later speed was all guess work (all totally legal of course lol)
I've done that, how cool does it look tho!
Southie
12-06-13, 09:58 PM
I loved knight rider as a kid so digi dashes look ace lol are you fitting a strobing red light to your grill as well lol
I've done that, how cool does it look tho!
I don't know, couldn't take my eyes off the road lol my mate had to tell me
I loved knight rider as a kid so digi dashes look ace lol are you fitting a strobing red light to your grill as well lol
As we're in Europe its got a blue strobe, Red was the yank kit... Do you know nothing lol
Southie
12-06-13, 10:55 PM
It's PNG, we prefer pink strobing objects lol
It's PNG, we prefer pink throbbing objects lol
Pardon? lol
sorry to be filling the thread with so many similar pics, but this bloody filling/sanding/more filling/more sanding seems to be all im doing lately, its taking forever and a day! ain!!!!!slowly getting somewhere now though, and i'll be happy when I never have to pick sanding dust out of my nose ever again!!!!!
been in the garage for a few hours today with the 120 grit.
http://i69.photobucket.com/albums/i49/conad/20130619_143218.jpg (http://s69.photobucket.com/user/conad/media/20130619_143218.jpg.html)
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Looks like you will have a smooth bay when it's all done! One question though....... Have you mocked up the front end with all the panels/lights in? If not I would stop what your doing and mock it all first especially if its a non genuine front panel. You don't want to put all the hours in for it all to have alignment issues later. They stand out big time on a mk2 and will make the difference In build quality.
Nick.
krobinson
19-06-13, 07:59 PM
Agree with Nick. Defo worth doing!
Love this.
http://i69.photobucket.com/albums/i49/conad/20130619_143218.jpg
Looks like you will have a smooth bay when it's all done! One question though....... Have you mocked up the front end with all the panels/lights in? If not I would stop what your doing and mock it all first especially if its a non genuine front panel. You don't want to put all the hours in for it all to have alignment issues later. They stand out big time on a mk2 and will make the difference In build quality.
Nick.
I haven't no, and I hadn't thought of it either. So just reassemble the front end basically? Wings, bonnet, bumper, grill, lights? Cheers for the advice.
Agree with Nick. Defo worth doing!
You've both scared me now, keep your fingers crossed for me.
Love this.
http://i69.photobucket.com/albums/i49/conad/20130619_143218.jpg
Cheers matey.... It's taken long enough lol
Just thought.... I've got no n/s wing :wall:
deneil_gsi2000
20-06-13, 02:21 AM
Hats off to ya mate looks really good, I really dont have the patients for that kind of thing lol im more of a brushable seam sealer guy lol
Hats off to ya mate looks really good, I really dont have the patients for that kind of thing lol im more of a brushable seam sealer guy lol
Cheers matey. Funny you say that, I'm running out of patience very fast lol, its never ending!
Another long day in the garage for me today.
Put yet more filler on the front end today, but I won't keep boring you with that one.
I also nearly finished making my spit, just got to put the box section on that will run the length of the car, other than that it's ready and I'm pretty happy with it.
I also did some more stripping of the interior... I really didn't plan on going this far but sod it... If a jobs worth doing an all that jazz lol
I also took one of the doors off... Bloody nightmare getting those barsterd pins out, let's just say I hope new ones are still available!
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Quick question... How do I disconnect the bootlid wiring without cutting it?
http://i69.photobucket.com/albums/i49/conad/20130624_173803.jpg
Take the trim panel off the boot lid. You unplug the wires there, then feed them down and out of the boot.
What about the wires for the heating elements in the glass?
Unplug and push thru the hole.... Just remember they are a chunt to get back thru. If you have some old net curtain metal bendy wire stuff, tape the wires to it, gently pull it thru then tape it so it stays in the boot.
Then you can just tape the wires to it and pull them back thru to re fit.
mig wires good for getting wires back in place too
mig wires good for getting wires back in place too
Good thinking sherlock :thumb:
I haven't no, and I hadn't thought of it either. So just reassemble the front end basically? Wings, bonnet, bumper, grill, lights? Cheers for the advice.
You've both scared me now, keep your fingers crossed for me.
Cheers matey.... It's taken long enough lol
You need to be scared! If thats a non genuine front panel then you'll have your work cut out as it is. Get it together with as many genuine parts as possible before continuing any further with the front end. If you want it to look pukka Its a must.
Nick.
You need to be scared! If thats a non genuine front panel then you'll have your work cut out as it is. Get it together with as many genuine parts as possible before continuing any further with the front end. If you want it to look pukka Its a must.
Nick.
I pulled most of the parts down from the roof today so will have a go asap... I'm just minus a passenger wing!
It not genuine gm, but tbf it seems a pretty good copy... Time will tell eh lol
well guys, I did as you all suggested and got the front end fitted before carrying on with the prepping, and im pleased to say it all fitted perfectly, im really happy with it.
http://i69.photobucket.com/albums/i49/conad/20130626_121659.jpg (http://s69.photobucket.com/user/conad/media/20130626_121659.jpg.html)
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Also, big news.... I FINISHED MY SPIT! got an extra pair of hands today courtesy of the mrs and managed to get it finished and the car lifted into place. Im chuffed with it, it works a treat (Barry i'll get the drawings done as soon as I can)
http://i69.photobucket.com/albums/i49/conad/20130626_175144.jpg (http://s69.photobucket.com/user/conad/media/20130626_175144.jpg.html)
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Once upside down I got a real good look at how clean it is.... im amazed, its spotless.... not a single bit of rot (from what I can see)
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Novaload_Nick
26-06-13, 10:15 PM
That looks spot on dude
Dude where is the adjustment in the spit so it fits saloons?
That looks spot on dude
Cheers matey.... I'm proud as punch
Dude where is the adjustment in the spit so it fits saloons?
Easily done.... Just cut out and extend.... Simples.
At what point did I think this was a good idea..... BLAG!!
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Nice work on the jig, will make life to much easier! Your very lucky to have the big garage too. I'd love one that size!
Underside is nice and clean, going red under there? Nice to see the rear is turreted too.
Nice work on the jig, will make life to much easier! Your very lucky to have the big garage too. I'd love one that size!
Underside is nice and clean, going red under there? Nice to see the rear is turreted too.
Cheers matey, it is loads easier... I dread to think how hard it would be lying on my back.
I'm really lucky with the garage, it's really wide, and about 2 ¹/² novas long.
I'm happy at how clean it is so far but worried I'll uncover something I don't want to lol
I cant claim the credit for the turrets I'm afraid.
It's a REALLY sh*t job laying on your back believe me.
scorge01
27-06-13, 08:17 PM
Looks a really good fit :)
brainsnova
27-06-13, 08:30 PM
It makes life so much easier working side on
Damn that jig makes mine look like a scrap pikey effort lol
I want wheels on mine now :(
It's a REALLY sh*t job laying on your back believe me.
No doubt, the stuffs like superglue
Looks a really good fit :)
Cheers pal, I'm pretty chuffed with it
It makes life so much easier working side on
Still a sh!t job though lol
Damn that jig makes mine look like a scrap pikey effort lol
I want wheels on mine now :(
I do it for a living so I've got a head start, but hey yours does the job.... Just stick some skateboards under it lol
New sill then?
Looks pretty good still stripped back!
going red under there? .
I am indeed.... FRESH lol
New sill then?
Looks pretty good still stripped back!
Nope, all original. I'm only stripping back to epoxy primer it and fresh stone chip.
HELP!!!! Well I knew it was all too good to be true, I've found the first (and hopefully last) bit of rot, it's in the rear drivers side corner and it'sppretty nasty (made worse by a previous repair. Now my problem is getting rid of all the bad steel, I can't get my grinder in to cut it out, what do you lot recommend?
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Could really do with your help guys as stated in the previous post, here's a more detailed picture, didn't realise how blurred the last ones were
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Not a hard fix. Cut out the middle (green bit) Clean all the sides up then put a flat plate in there. On the top (in the boot) cut the metal back so you can see in the chassis leg, as i bet that's rotten too. Then you can work out if you need to remove the end and replace. Then weld a flat plate in from the top over the holes. Joining bottom and top plates.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v321/bennh/Crap/20130704_151127_zpsdc740e34.jpg (http://smg.photobucket.com/user/bennh/media/Crap/20130704_151127_zpsdc740e34.jpg.html)
Not that bad, ashamed to say i had to do the same in mine. Due to the sunroof drain being blocked.
Thanks Benn... I knew I could rely on you for a reply. I know where needs cutting and replacing... My problem is getting in there to cut it, I can't get my grinder in there enough to make a neat job.
i use a dremel with small cutting disc. takes a while and a good few discs.
http://www.nordicskiracer.com/equipment/waxing/dremel01.jpg
Thanks Benn... I knew I could rely on you for a reply. I know where needs cutting and replacing... My problem is getting in there to cut it, I can't get my grinder in there enough to make a neat job.
Cut what you can out, then grind the rest to 1 remove left overs, 2 clean up for welding.
Grinder, or a belt sander. One of the best tools i own.
I made plates up like this... They dont look neat there, but everything with trimed and made nice.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v321/bennh/Car%20updates%20June%202011%20on/Welding22.jpg (http://smg.photobucket.com/user/bennh/media/Car%20updates%20June%202011%20on/Welding22.jpg.html)
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i use a dremel with small cutting disc. takes a while and a good few discs.
http://www.nordicskiracer.com/equipment/waxing/dremel01.jpg
Cut what you can out, then grind the rest to 1 remove left overs, 2 clean up for welding.
Grinder, or a belt sander. One of the best tools i own.
I made plates up like this... They dont look neat there, but everything with trimed and made nice.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v321/bennh/Car%20updates%20June%202011%20on/Welding22.jpg (http://smg.photobucket.com/user/bennh/media/Car%20updates%20June%202011%20on/Welding22.jpg.html)
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v321/bennh/Car%20updates%20June%202011%20on/Welding24.jpg (http://smg.photobucket.com/user/bennh/media/Car%20updates%20June%202011%20on/Welding24.jpg.html)
Cheers guys, I got there in the end, I took the guard off my air cut off tool, made things easier, the rest was threatened with a mahoosive chisel. Made a template with a cheerios box and bobs your uncle.
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Novaload_Nick
05-07-13, 10:14 PM
Good work, looks awkward and annoying lol
The front end fit is very good for a Nova, I spent hours trying to get mine half as good as that!
Good work, looks awkward and annoying lol
Exactly that lol
The front end fit is very good for a Nova, I spent hours trying to get mine half as good as that!
It all seems to fit better than before I changed the panel lol
http://i69.photobucket.com/albums/i49/conad/20130705_142727.jpg
Now looking at this, what was the chassis leg like under? As it looks a bit crispy... Unless it's just the pic....
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Now looking at this, what was the chassis leg like under? As it looks a bit crispy... Unless it's just the pic....
is 'crispy' an official engineering termanology? its ok actually, a bit of surface rust and lots of dirt.
is 'crispy' an official engineering termanology?
Technically, thin gauge material of a low tensile strength, I guess... but crispy is fine. Fcuked also works in place of a whole variety of other terms lol
haha see i was right. Glad it wasn't tobad. Make sure you clean it up well and then fill them with a cavity wax. I'll check when i see it....
well guys, havent been on here for a while, and havent really had much time to spend on the ol' girl either.... dribs and drabs really. just spent a couple of hourse stripping underneath so thought id share.
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I've found some more of the dreaded rot this time on the chassis rail, im a bit unsure on how to fix this though as i dont want to put a new 'skin' on and then have the strengthening block rot from the inside out!
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found some more on a spot weld aswell, attacked it with a wire wheel and tempted just to fill it with weld
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nice work, i would just cut out the rotten section then bend out a channel like I_I then put over it and fully weld. fill with waxoyl or something to stop rust in the future.
cheers john. theres a solid block of metal in the rail that has also started to rot, im just concerned that will carry on rotting, even when waxoyl'd
Ref the chassis rail rust, i just cut it out where it was rusty, then made a bit to go back in that looked the same. Check the floor under it tho, as it's prob gone... I'd be temped to cut the other bit out where it's rusted too.
Good work getting the underside nice and clean.
novadave24
27-07-13, 01:27 AM
this is coming on really great mate keep up the good work :)
nath2905
27-07-13, 05:39 PM
thats what i am about to do on mine next week.... what did you use? a wire wheel on a grinder? thats what i was going use
I'd be temped to cut the other bit out where it's rusted too.
OOOFT, for such a small bit of rust im actually scared of it.
this is coming on really great mate keep up the good work :)
cheers buddy, slow and steady.
thats what i am about to do on mine next week.... what did you use? a wire wheel on a grinder? thats what i was going use
yeah, I scraped the stonechip off by hand then attacked it with a twisted wire wheel on a 4 1/2" grinder. don't just go at the underseal with a grinder though.... makes a right mess!
That's the thing, what's hiding under it might be worse.
Thanks for the encouraging words Benn lol
Better to do it and find it now, then in 3 years when it's ahell of a lot worse, trust me!
Kev Turbo
22-01-14, 05:11 AM
any updates Conad?
krobinson
27-01-14, 09:58 PM
:d
Let the cat out of the bag Keith?
Kev Turbo
11-02-14, 12:17 PM
Things have gone all too quite - Update PLEASSEEEEE ;)
bazzap8389
18-02-14, 05:44 PM
Where you hiding Dan??
krobinson
24-01-16, 11:31 AM
Updateeeee
krobinson
19-02-16, 06:31 PM
I've hunted him down, and caused him to spend his life savings - muhahahahaha
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