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jimbob-mcgrew
20-07-08, 12:36 AM
is it possible to do this yourself by finely marking out and drilling a bunch of holes in it, without upsetting the balance of it too much, im curious, proper ones are expensive

BIGS
20-07-08, 12:40 AM
i wouldnt bother, people in the past that have lightened a flywheel by drilling or skimming and have had there ones shatter and even come through the front of the car

tom reid
20-07-08, 12:40 AM
Dont do it, lol, you'll just end up ruining a perfectly good flywheel.
How expensive is too expensive?, a properly modified std item isn't that expensive, imo.

Adam
20-07-08, 12:40 AM
Seriously dont attempt it.
You could put hairline fractures in it which then may lead to it shattering at 6000rpm and heading into the car/its passengers.....

jimbob-mcgrew
20-07-08, 12:43 AM
hah - 3 replys within less than 5 minutes saying dont do it

~~joycey~~
20-07-08, 12:46 AM
Yeah i heard from a mate about some one's flywheel shattering and it cutting through bonnet/gearbox ect!?

tom reid
20-07-08, 12:51 AM
hah - 3 replys within less than 5 minutes saying dont do it
Good advice though

L14MNP
20-07-08, 12:56 AM
LOL yep, it will have no problems munching the ali of the gearbox and the bulkhead/front end when it decides to leave at a few thousand RPM.
Suicidal pikey mod IMO. Cut springs, it's safer.

dumpycorsa
20-07-08, 04:38 AM
I bought one a while back from a shop on ebay. Flat type xe fly wheel.Just needed to add the starter gear ring from the old fly wheel. Took it into work and crack tested it, de-magnitised it, checked the balance, clocked the starter gear ring in on a marking out table then weighed it. It now weighs 3.6kg. Paid £125 for it. Wouldn't risk lightening it myself as it could cause dangerous imperfections. This one was done on a cnc mill ensuring all the holes were evenly spaced. Even so I still had ot checked for cracks and checked it was balanced before I fitted it to the engine.-

Removing the gear ring using a Oxyacetylene torch

http://i41.photobucket.com/albums/e251/trish26gordon/DSCN3683.jpg

Then heated up again and fitted on to the new fly wheel. Ideal


http://i41.photobucket.com/albums/e251/trish26gordon/DSCN3685.jpg

ck
20-07-08, 05:40 AM
now this i would not want to happen to my car!!! also what is worrying is what it could do if some parts got into the passenger compartment when the seat is occupied... :eek:
http://i70.photobucket.com/albums/i95/ckallis500/flywheelbang.jpg

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BIGS
20-07-08, 12:35 PM
tbh it is dam right dangerous when done and why people want to do it anyway i havent got a clue. even if they did lighten the original one it still would never be as light as a proper one, and is it really that much more money.

Philsutton
20-07-08, 12:59 PM
as said dont do it, a flywheel at 7k will have a serious amount of energy and not alot is going to stop it if it comes off (which is what it will do if its not 100% balanced right).

mayhem
20-07-08, 12:59 PM
i had mine done by a big rally/race shop. cost me 90 euro, and it weights a good 5kg.

BIGS
20-07-08, 01:05 PM
i had mine done by a big rally/race shop. cost me 90 euro, and it weights a good 5kg.

you havent got that in your car have you? if you have i would do any high revs!

burgo
20-07-08, 01:19 PM
you havent got that in your car have you? if you have i would do any high revs!what makes you say that

BIGS
20-07-08, 01:21 PM
have you seen the pics that ck posted. i would just never trust a lightend flywheel done buy a shop yourself ect. ive seen what can happen and how weak then can get

burgo
20-07-08, 01:27 PM
well if you dont want a lightened flywheel done by a shop how do you plan on having one

BIGS
20-07-08, 01:30 PM
buy a shop i mean as in use the original one and go to a work shop and get them to put it on a lave and shave it down. i would buy one from courtenay sport ect

Philsutton
20-07-08, 01:31 PM
^^ courtney sport just shave down theirs???

burgo
20-07-08, 01:32 PM
bigs i think your being silly lol

BIGS
20-07-08, 01:33 PM
^^ courtney sport just shave down theirs???
:confused: am i getting this very wrong then. who is it that uses a lighter material instead of just shaving them down

burgo
20-07-08, 01:35 PM
errr very few people as that costs lots of pennies

BIGS
20-07-08, 01:36 PM
bigs i think your being silly lol

you got me thinking i am aswell now lol

im sure someone told me a place that uses a lighter metal thats how they get a light flywheel :confused: hmm now you got me thinking if i just dreamed that :roll:

Welsh Dan
20-07-08, 01:36 PM
I can make you a fibreglass one if you like. ;)

BIGS
20-07-08, 01:37 PM
I can make you a fibreglass one if you like. ;)

prefer if it was carbon :D

Philsutton
20-07-08, 01:37 PM
Hardly anyone uses different material as thats cost loads. Its is the best way to do it though.

BIGS
20-07-08, 01:39 PM
Yea ones ive seen are around £250 - £300 so im not dreaming then.

Austin_Nova16
20-07-08, 01:43 PM
You talking about the fidenza (sp?) flywheels? Alloy with a bolt on friction part......

BIGS
20-07-08, 01:44 PM
yea thats the one, very well made

Philsutton
20-07-08, 01:49 PM
TBH I cant say much really as Ive gypo worse things on the corsa light shaving down my pistons lol

jimbob-mcgrew
20-07-08, 02:17 PM
fkinell u see those pics, chomped thru the rad and bumper on that nova with ease by the looks of it. and the calibra - took the dizzy off clean and punched a hole thru the bonnet, hopefully some poor fcuker in the next town didnt have that lump of disc come down on them like a meteorite.

after seeing those pics and hearing what everyone has to say about the matter, not even sure if i wanna risk messing with a professionally done one now

white2lSR
20-07-08, 04:23 PM
im liking the pics of the flywheels making sharp exits lol

Andy
20-07-08, 04:36 PM
Yeah they can be dangerous,imagine a Stihl saw with a blade as thick as your flywheel plus a clutch bolted to it exploding.........carnage lol

dhdev (Oli)
20-07-08, 04:42 PM
Get it done properly http://www.autosprint.co.uk/?p=p_43

ck
20-07-08, 04:43 PM
i would no way trust a lightened standard flywheel, once machined it cant be heat treated properly again to get its strength back. most ppl that lighten them can only take them down a very small amount and generaly only take material from the rear surface.

courtenay flywheels are steel billet, my friend has one on his LET. i used to run a fidanza alloy flywheel on my LET the std flywheel was around 9.5kg's (pot type) and my fidanza was only 3.5kg's. the steel ones arent as light.

dumpycorsa
20-07-08, 06:09 PM
the steel ones arent as light.


Mine only weighs 3.6 kgs with out a starter gear ring

ck
20-07-08, 06:21 PM
yeah, my pot type fidanza was 3.5kg's with starter gear. the flat type i think was 3.2kg's with the starter gear.

mayhem
20-07-08, 06:29 PM
you havent got that in your car have you? if you have i would do any high revs!

its in my c20xe nova..

Ash
20-07-08, 10:29 PM
Hey? I had mine lightened and balanced at a machine shop, cost about £30. I didn't want to take too much off mind.