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conad
16-07-08, 05:36 PM
my head gasket has gone, it was only bloody done 1000 miles ago!! i dont seem to have any luck at all with this car, im sick of it. FCUKED!!! :mad: :cry: :wtf:

General Baxter
16-07-08, 05:37 PM
whats it worth, ill give you a quid lol

raymond
16-07-08, 05:38 PM
joys of owning a turbo buddy

burgo
16-07-08, 05:38 PM
must be another problem then. unless it wasnt changed properly last time

conad
16-07-08, 05:38 PM
Sold....

conad
16-07-08, 05:41 PM
well i was driving along, and without notice it started running on 3 cylinders, i pulled over and there was water everywhere, i limped it back to work where when i took my oil cap off, discovered it was whiter than the cheeks on my ****.

Adam
16-07-08, 05:53 PM
Sure the heads not "porous" ?

burgo
16-07-08, 05:57 PM
Sure the heads not "porous" ?exactl what i was just thinking

conad
16-07-08, 06:12 PM
well iv only just had a coscast one put on because the last GM one went porous.

conad
16-07-08, 06:15 PM
going to presure test it tommorrow.

Stuart
16-07-08, 06:18 PM
£5 says the block is warped/not flat.

Nick J
16-07-08, 06:19 PM
Sorry to hear that mate..... what a nightmare! Im thinking you and that car are not meant to be.. either that or you have one heavy right foot!

conad
16-07-08, 06:25 PM
£5 says the block is warped/not flat.

dont even joke about that sh!t :tard: :eek:


Sorry to hear that mate..... what a nightmare! Im thinking you and that car are not meant to be.. either that or you have one heavy right foot!

i think its a bit of both lol theres ALWAYS something wrong with it, so its either going in the garage and having a bit of an overhall, or its going, im undecided yet.

Stuart
16-07-08, 06:28 PM
Not joking about it..... most people dont even think about checking the sodding block when they do a head gasket.

conad
16-07-08, 06:31 PM
am i right in thinking the top of the block can be skimmed?

Rick Draper
16-07-08, 06:34 PM
Right here we go.

1 what gasket are you using?
2 Did you check the block for flatness?
3 Porus head would not cause it to run on 3.

Just seen, blocks can be skimmed, need stripping down though.

conad
16-07-08, 06:39 PM
1. gm gasket, going to try a steel one from chris astleys
2. i dint change it, but im pretty sure he didn't, il ask him tommorrow
3. a lad in work recons the gaskets gone, allowing water into the bore, but i thought that meant 'caboom' because water cant be compressed.

thanks rick, it may well be stripped anyway (big plans if i decide to do it)

Adam
16-07-08, 06:40 PM
Depends how much water.
It will get evaporated by the head and give a lot of white smoke out the exhaust.

conad
16-07-08, 06:41 PM
thats the one, i forgot that bit, white smoke coming from the exhaust

Rick Draper
16-07-08, 06:44 PM
If you go for a steel layered gasket then you have to be 100% sure the block is flat as hat. If you run a stock GM gasket then it is a little less critical of the block been totally flat.

Dont try for big power from a let, its only a disapissapointment

conad
16-07-08, 06:46 PM
speaking from experience are you? im after a little bit more reliability realy, stronger parts.

Rick Draper
16-07-08, 06:52 PM
speaking from experience are you? im after a little bit more reliability realy, stronger parts.

Yep, if i was to do it over again i would go for steel rods fitted to a stockish let setup and phase 2/3.5.

Go for a cometic gasket IMHO off Steveboyslim and ensure the block and head are totally flat. Engine out and stripped job like i say though.

Paul
16-07-08, 09:41 PM
Go for a cometic gasket IMHO off Steveboyslim and ensure the block and head are totally flat. Engine out and stripped job like i say though.

:thumb:

Will F
17-07-08, 08:33 AM
Does sound like a pretty catastrophic failure if there is loads of Mayo everywhere....

Could just be simple like it wasnt torqued correctly... or it could be a warped block...

Just hope that it hasnt done too much damage - if it dumped collent down one of teh pots, it can be deathtastic.:)

Adam
17-07-08, 04:14 PM
Yep, if i was to do it over again i would go for steel rods fitted to a stockish let setup and phase 2/3.5.

Why?
Out of interest

craig green
17-07-08, 04:55 PM
MLS gasket if you arent skimming the block (& head) is a no no.

Can I suggest you have the injectors cleaned aswell, though I'd expect different symptoms tbh.

Rick Draper
17-07-08, 05:05 PM
Why?
Out of interest

Probably the most sensible setup for the chassis imho.

Also it would be quite reliable as your not pressing the limits and it would make a nice track car. I really rate Rich M's car, its a fantastic all rounder.

Adam
17-07-08, 05:24 PM
Aye, i get you.

conad
17-07-08, 08:38 PM
Yep, if i was to do it over again i would go for steel rods fitted to a stockish let setup and phase 2/3.5.

Go for a cometic gasket IMHO off Steveboyslim and ensure the block and head are totally flat. Engine out and stripped job like i say though.

sounds like a good idea to me :thumb: i may just take your advise.... thanks



Does sound like a pretty catastrophic failure if there is loads of Mayo everywhere....

Could just be simple like it wasnt torqued correctly... or it could be a warped block...

Just hope that it hasnt done too much damage - if it dumped collent down one of teh pots, it can be deathtastic.:)

there wasnt 'mayo' everywhere, just water, the mayo is under the oil cap



MLS gasket if you arent skimming the block (& head) is a no no.

Can I suggest you have the injectors cleaned aswell, though I'd expect different symptoms tbh.

don't worry i think the engine coming out for a bit of 'all over' work so it'l be done properly

krobinson
17-07-08, 08:42 PM
Hopefully its nothing serious mate!

I had my block skimmed to make it 100% before I rebuilt my LET. Hopefully I wont have any problems (god knows i've had enough already)

Keith

conad
17-07-08, 08:50 PM
Hopefully its nothing serious mate!

I had my block skimmed to make it 100% before I rebuilt my LET. Hopefully I wont have any problems (god knows i've had enough already)

Keith

its the best thing to do i think, if a jobs worth doing, its worth doing well :thumb:

Rick Draper
18-07-08, 12:24 AM
sounds like a good idea to me :thumb: i may just take your advise.... thanks

Best advice i can give is this:

Phase 2 or 3.5,
Coscast head,
Decent turbo setup (rebuilt kkk or T3/35),
F28 with a quaife diff,
Enlarged top hat,
Decked and bored block.

The following parts for security:

Steel rods,
VGC stock pistons or fresh ones off steveboyslim,
Cometic gasket,
Balanced bottom end,
Possibly oil sprayers,
Z20LET oil pump.

IMHO thats a nice solid engine for very sensible money.

conad
18-07-08, 07:23 PM
rick, your a star.

you've given me some really sensible affordable ideas there, and seen as your pretty much the best man to ask, that may well be whats going to happen.

iv got my eye on this little bit of kit
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Vauxhall-C20LET-Engine-kit-package_W0QQitemZ180163060997QQcmdZViewItem?hash=i tem180163060997&_trksid=p3286.m14.l1318

conad
19-07-08, 01:01 PM
just started it to move it up my drive and its no longer running 3 cylinders :wtf: :tard:

Paul
19-07-08, 01:36 PM
hve you done a compression test?

conad
19-07-08, 01:40 PM
not yet, only got it home an hour ago, its been in work

Paul
19-07-08, 01:48 PM
that would be first port of call, do a wet and dry test and report results.

philip
04-08-08, 08:19 AM
blown bwteen cylinders, ****ty standard gasket, too much compression and boost:thumb:

Novaboyleon
04-08-08, 08:53 PM
if its running fine now it couldv been a plig failure, that or a valve got stuck somewhere, still wouldnt explain the mayo though but if its in the oil and not the water then i dont think the head would be porous as it affects the water.

conad
04-08-08, 09:35 PM
just been looking for you on vauxsport lol

yeah great, il probably be getting in touch as a few people have recomended you. tell me abit about yourself (bussiness wise) lol

Paul
04-08-08, 09:37 PM
hes not a business, hes built bout 30 Vaux engines IIRC including mine, few of my mates. highly recommended, will not full you with ****, tells you how it is, top bloke.

conad
04-08-08, 09:43 PM
IIRC, i see this all the time.... what the hell does it mean lol

Paul
04-08-08, 09:51 PM
If I Remember Correctly

conad
04-08-08, 09:52 PM
ahhhhh now it all makes sense lol

Paul
04-08-08, 09:54 PM
Indeed, it probably will do lol. Worth giving Steve a call, he should be able to get you everything you need, prbably at the best prices too.

conad
04-08-08, 10:02 PM
im after everything being brand new though.

steveboyslim
05-08-08, 07:12 PM
im after everything being brand new though.

What do you mean everything brand new ?
The only parts reused after checking, boring or skimming are the castings and the crank.

Steve