wiring for c16xe and x16xel engine into nova

[Cheeze]

just a quick question

Im going to be putting a c16xe and a x16xel engine into two nova soon, just needing some info on the wiring for these engines.

For the c16xe and the x16xel i have two plugs, a 3 wire one which i think is for the air con? wire colours are on both engine looms
Black/green
Black/white
Black/blue

Now on the c16 loom i have a larger plug with 9 wires into it which are

Red- battery live
Black- ignition live
Large black- unknown
Brown/yellow
Brown/white
Blue/red
Red/blue fuel pump?
Green- rev counter
Blue/brown

And now the x16xel

brown/white
brown/yellow
red/blue - fuel pump
blue/red
green- rev counter
blue
brown/blue
black/brown

Anyone help?

[burgo]

http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a226/sclurgess/Engineconversionwiring.jpg

any help? if so thank adam :thumb:

[Adam]

The 3wire one(black/green etc etc) isn't needed in a nova.

[Cheeze]

The one that not needed Burgo, is that the brown/white i guess?

And the brown/yellow is constantly earthed yes?

What the colour of the ecu ligth wite there?

[burgo]

no the brown and yellow you only earth when you want to flash the fault codes

[Cheeze]

Ah got you now, thanks

[Adam]

ecu light=brown/blue

[Cheeze]

ok so what i make of this now is
C16XE
Red- battery live
Black- ignition live
Large black- unknown is this a ign live??
Brown/yellow Earth to flash fault codes
Brown/white- not needed
Blue/red not sure on this one
Red/blue fuel pump?
Green- rev counter
Blue/brown- ecu light

And the X16XEL

brown/white not needed
brown/yellow- earth to flash fault codes
red/blue - fuel pump
blue/red unkown also
green- rev counter
blue- cooland temp
brown/blue ecu ight
black/brown Any ideas on this also

[burgo]

the blue/red is for the vss

[Cheeze]

which is what lol, sorry guys first time doing this conversion have a pop at vehicle speed sensor?

Does the c1x need this plugged in? dont think we used it when i done the conversion into a corsa 1.2

[burgo]

yes it is the vehicle speed sensor. it doesnt need to be connected but you will find yourself stalling alot whilst slowing down

[Adam]

It really DOES need connecting, its not only annoying stalling whenever you press the clutch down, but its also quite dangerous say if your on a motorway, brake sharply and put the clutch down if someones diving in your lane off a sliproad for example, the engine will die...
Not very cool when cars are doing 80/90 behind you...

[Cheeze]

ok guys thanks, also on the x16xel i know it has the immobiliser, the ecu has the key taped to it at the moment, is this going to be a ok place for it to sit, so it switches off the immobiliser?

I still have this black.brown on the x16 plug that spare

[Adam]

Yeah, taped to the immobiliser pickup ring is fine

[Cheeze]

Ah now i didnt see that ring you meantion, it just has the key, we were just given bits abobs and asked to fit to the car.

Would any pickup ring work ok?

[Adam]

Nope, has to be the exact one that came on the car.

Its a black plastic box, with a ring around it(where the ignition barrel should fit)

[Cheeze]

or we have to get a new key, ring and ecu i guess then

[burgo]

the ring can be programmed to the ecu and key ;)

[Dod]

Yeah but no one will do it. Vauxhall/Opel can but they wont cuz they're *******s!!

[burgo]

you have to know the right people dod ;) i have access toa main dealer vauxhall tech2 and permission dongle (sp)

[Dod]

Theres no need to bragg, I dont. :(

[Cheeze]

did i read someplace that the corsa vss is in the corsa dash clocks and not at the gearbox end?

So im going to have to find a gearbox one if thats the case, oh and what gearbox f13 of f15, any better than the other

[Adam]

Both gearboxes pretty similar, use whatever you can find. Yes most corsas have vss in the clocks, but you will need a nova one that can attach a speedo cable if you want to use std nova speedo/clocks.
Off a nova spi

[Cheeze]

i have both, so its one or the other.

I will have alook see what i can find regarding the vss, cheers

[Dod]

Any chance of a Pic of it Cheeze?

I take it the origional Corsa item is in the dash?

[Cheeze]

Sorry Dod, what would you like a pic of?

[burgo]

cheeze the vss on a nova spi is in the box like the transponders for the digi dashes. you simply put it in your box and reconnect your speedo cable. job done

[Dod]

Hi mate, I'm after a pic of the Nova Speed sensor as described in Burgos post. I dont think I have one.

Would a Digi dash item, paired with a Digi Dash fit the bill?

[Adam]

yes /\

[Dod]

So If I wire in a Digi dash I'm sorted?

[burgo]

no you dont need a digi dash, you just need the transducer?

[Cheeze]

Kool cheers, i will have to have a hunt for a spi in the local scrappy