View Full Version : From Nova To Suzuki = Vauxuki
coldo66rc
25-06-08, 11:25 PM
the plan is to put a suzuki swift gti engine into my nova keeping the injection system which means sorting out the wiring which should be fun. Have a look at the pics and leave some some comments
The Car
http://i307.photobucket.com/albums/nn301/colin-66rc/100_2519.jpg
http://i307.photobucket.com/albums/nn301/colin-66rc/100_2521.jpg
http://i307.photobucket.com/albums/nn301/colin-66rc/100_2523.jpg
http://i307.photobucket.com/albums/nn301/colin-66rc/100_2528.jpg
removed the engine
http://i307.photobucket.com/albums/nn301/colin-66rc/100_2536.jpg
http://i307.photobucket.com/albums/nn301/colin-66rc/100_2544.jpg
coldo66rc
25-06-08, 11:30 PM
Gettin cleaned up
http://i307.photobucket.com/albums/nn301/colin-66rc/100_2584.jpg
http://i307.photobucket.com/albums/nn301/colin-66rc/100_2585.jpg
http://i307.photobucket.com/albums/nn301/colin-66rc/100_2595.jpg
The engine to be
http://i307.photobucket.com/albums/nn301/colin-66rc/100_2587.jpg
http://i307.photobucket.com/albums/nn301/colin-66rc/100_2589.jpg
Sprayed it with Etching primer
http://i307.photobucket.com/albums/nn301/colin-66rc/100_2592.jpg
vaughanmc
25-06-08, 11:35 PM
Good work mate - Where are you in Ayrshire ?
coldo66rc
25-06-08, 11:45 PM
painted
http://i307.photobucket.com/albums/nn301/colin-66rc/100_2613.jpg
http://i307.photobucket.com/albums/nn301/colin-66rc/100_2614.jpg
http://i307.photobucket.com/albums/nn301/colin-66rc/100_2607.jpg
http://i307.photobucket.com/albums/nn301/colin-66rc/100_2611.jpg
http://i307.photobucket.com/albums/nn301/colin-66rc/100_2610.jpg
http://i307.photobucket.com/albums/nn301/colin-66rc/100_2609.jpg
coldo66rc
25-06-08, 11:46 PM
thats th work done so far
vaughanmc
25-06-08, 11:48 PM
Done a good job in painting the bay
Did you stitch weld it too ??
coldo66rc
25-06-08, 11:49 PM
aye am that, u not seen th car in ayr or anywhere
no a didn't was going to bt thought, th shell hasn't had any welding done on it yet soo thought i'd be better keeping it that way and also it would rust like a biatch
vaughanmc
25-06-08, 11:51 PM
No mate - I don't recognise it...
Looks rather clean though :)
coldo66rc
25-06-08, 11:57 PM
aye got it from lichfield in feb 2007 th shel has only done 38k bt wen i got it it had only done 25k in its whole life lol soon racked that up
love the car long time. engine choice is a little odd to me, especially with how redily available baby xe's are these days
vaughanmc
26-06-08, 10:07 AM
Theres one local to me as well it has this engine setup running Twin 40's and it goes like s*it off a shovel lol
Mind you it has a LSD and a Straight-cut Quaife gearbox..
coldo66rc
02-07-08, 09:38 AM
thought ad get some more pics up of the work ave been doing this week
clutch came
http://i307.photobucket.com/albums/nn301/colin-66rc/100_2665.jpg
back together
http://i307.photobucket.com/albums/nn301/colin-66rc/100_2656.jpg
painted th bonnet
http://i307.photobucket.com/albums/nn301/colin-66rc/100_2637.jpg
wings
http://i307.photobucket.com/albums/nn301/colin-66rc/100_2617.jpg
http://i307.photobucket.com/albums/nn301/colin-66rc/100_2618.jpg
http://i307.photobucket.com/albums/nn301/colin-66rc/100_2620.jpg
th other wing
http://i307.photobucket.com/albums/nn301/colin-66rc/100_2638.jpg
http://i307.photobucket.com/albums/nn301/colin-66rc/100_2667.jpg
vaughanmc
02-07-08, 11:55 AM
Good progress mate :)
I think it must have been you or your dad doing the Grass-Autotest at Drumclog on Sunday in a wee Fiesta ?
A girl I used to work with has a Corsuki Rally car and its mental. It revs beyond 10k. I think she's using an F13 on here as well, cant remember cuz anytime we talked about it we were locked.
Great conversion to do mate, good choice. Well done.
lee 303 on migs red nova used to belong to my mate.
he rallied the car with a suzuki swift engine
alittle insiration for you here
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/VAUXHALL-NOVA-16V-SWIFT-POWERED-RALLY-CAR-RACE-TRACK_W0QQitemZ320269304439QQcmdZViewItem?hash=ite m320269304439&_trkparms=39%3A2%7C65%3A7&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14
Spotted that myself!! Good going machines!
alittle insiration for you here
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/VAUXHALL-NOVA-16V-SWIFT-POWERED-RALLY-CAR-RACE-TRACK_W0QQitemZ320269304439QQcmdZViewItem?hash=ite m320269304439&_trkparms=39%3A2%7C65%3A7&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14
bet thats competitive - theres also a swift with an XE on the bay
back on topic - car looks good fella :thumb:
russpazz
02-07-08, 05:40 PM
i'm not really a newbie in conversions but never seen this done before. can some explain reasons why?
aswrally
02-07-08, 05:49 PM
bet thats competitive - theres also a swift with an XE on the bay
back on topic - car looks good fella :thumb:
yes it it :thumb: last 3 events 2 first in classes by over 1 1/2 mins embarrasing alot more powerful cars ie the scooby on you tube that we reel in and pass on the northwest stages the last time out we still did 6th in the class after dropping over 5 1/2 mins after my codriver sent me the wrong way on stage 1 ...would of been 2nd in class and 17th o/a but for that
why are they done??? cos its good bang for bucks and very reliable mine revs all day at 8k :)
coldo66rc
02-07-08, 08:47 PM
aye vaughanmc (http://www.pngclub.com/forum/member.php?u=13879) it was, he borrowed that off me for sunday lol. Thats my main car th now while am gettin the nova ready, i've been stopped 3 times in 5 days with it by th police, if it pulled women like it pulls the pigs then i'd fuk th nova lol
draper, i hope it is, but for what i've seen from aswrally's car its bloody quick
russpazz as aswrally said the engine's are reliable and rev much higher than any standard vauxhall engine. Also the block is alloy and helps keep the car balanced and i thought its something abit different there are as many redtops conversions
coldo66rc
02-07-08, 09:05 PM
aswrally that no your nova on ebay why u sellin her??
vaughanmc
02-07-08, 09:56 PM
Didn't get a chance to speak to your dad like but had a chat to him at Kames several months back
I'm on the look out for a cheap autotest car the now lol Having to do it in my mates Astra isn't as fun
aswrally
02-07-08, 11:03 PM
aswrally that no your nova on ebay why u sellin her??
yes its mine im selling it as im going 4wd after nearly 20 yrs of 2wd i think its time for a change
im gonna say diag plug and possibly and ignition thingy lol cant remember the name
coldo66rc
03-07-08, 10:11 PM
u recon there anything to do with the ECU??
coldo66rc
21-08-08, 01:23 PM
been a while since i updated this, so thought it was about time. Bought a spax rsx (i think) coilover kit to stiffin th car up. The converstion plate came 5 weeks late but once it came i could get on with th job. had to make up th engine mount and i've still to connect up th exaust. got th wiring all sort i hope but i turns out that the ECU that i've got is fuked :mad: the copper wire that runs round th ECU to connect up the feed and signal wire to the injectors has burnt out not sure what caused it but don't think it happened with me, i've got another one on th way so hopefully it should be all right.
http://i307.photobucket.com/albums/nn301/colin-66rc/100_2772.jpg
http://i307.photobucket.com/albums/nn301/colin-66rc/100_2773.jpg
http://i307.photobucket.com/albums/nn301/colin-66rc/100_2767.jpg
loggyboy
21-08-08, 02:01 PM
That eng bracket looks as weak as F***... it will just bend and flex and then snap!
The Simps
21-08-08, 02:04 PM
wouldn't it be a better idea to lower the engine mount point?
Looks like a good project:thumb:
you going to use it as a road or rally/track car ??
novarally
21-08-08, 02:44 PM
That eng bracket looks as weak as F***... it will just bend and flex and then snap!
I was just thinking exactly the same. That needs to be re-fabricated properly.
shy witness
21-08-08, 07:04 PM
wouldn't it be a better idea to lower the engine mount point?
^^^^100%^^^^
would be a far better option..
drillout the spotwelds or cut off the whole mounting point.......and re-weld it lower down so the whole engine mount braket is on the 1 level........and on the 1 peice of steel.
the part where the fold/bend is should also have a small abrace..........thats where where your mount would be the strongest.:thumb:
i like this project though.
should be a right wee rever when its done.
nice
LEWI007
21-08-08, 08:20 PM
Yeah it's going to be a good one for sure :thumb:
coldo66rc
21-08-08, 09:00 PM
am using it for the road th now but thinking of taking it to knockhill and kames.
About the bracket, aye thats a no bad idea of lowering th mounting point shouldn't be too hard to do and wil reduce flex if its al 1 piece of bar, cheers
vaughanmc
21-08-08, 09:15 PM
Will be good to see it round Kames mate :)
Let me know when your taking it up and I'll come up
Hows the Sport as well ??
nica car mate have always thought of doing this just didnt know how to mate the engine to the vaux box, i know it is possible, and i wouldnt know where to start modding driveshafts,
which box are you using?
coldo66rc
21-08-08, 10:05 PM
vaughmc: aye anno canny wait, the sports going slowly th now jst been focusin on this th now. But once this is finished i'll get th sport in th shed an plough on with it.
DAN-F: You get a plate that fits straight onto th swift engine then u bolt a F13 gearbox onto th other side saves any messing about with driveshafts, and from what i've heard don't think th swift gearbox's are up to much. The only problem i had with fittin the block to gearbox was that i had to buy M10 1.25 metric fine allen head bolts to fit into th countersunk bit in th plate, then th guy that made th plate up thought it would be a good idea to thread th starter bolts M7 so they were tricky to find. But apart from that it wasn't to bad
vaughanmc
21-08-08, 10:07 PM
Nice one mate some progress on the Sport should be good :)
LEWI007
22-08-08, 07:44 AM
You have a sport :eek:
Im now a big fan of you :thumb:
swift box's are rubbish theres a ew round my way 3 of my mates have got them, they go through more box's than petrol lol,
where do you get the gearbox plate from?
DaveyLC
22-08-08, 07:44 PM
http://i307.photobucket.com/albums/nn301/colin-66rc/100_2773.jpg
Is that an engine mount? eek! :|
You should put some extra bracing on that mount, lots of it!
manta_motorsport
03-09-08, 05:36 PM
What type of clutch kit did you use for this conversion? Looks really well. Any more mods planned for the engine?
aswrally
03-09-08, 05:41 PM
i have a full conversion for sale engine with mk1 dissy no need for engine management, clutch, adapter plate engine mount etc
complete with twin 40s and inlet manifold
engine runs mint as it was a spare for when i had my nova
email me for details asw1970@blueyonder.co.uk
greg1.4
03-01-09, 12:31 AM
awryt, just found your project mate..
remember talking to me at kames?
i will be going upto kames again soon with my suzuki powered nova, if you are there i will take you a run..if you see me, just give us a shout..
my wee swift powered nova was going well i thought at kames last weekend, loved it..much quicker than any of my 8v's. what did you think of her?
coldo66rc
09-01-09, 06:49 PM
alrite, aye a do, it was a good day. Shes some bit of kit you were getting faster and faster as the day went on. Aye a would love a run in it see how quick she is. it would be interesting if u could get a straight drag between my 1.4 8v and your 16v lol.
Am gona bring the one in this thread up next time just got to sort out abit of the wiring cause the ECU keeps on buring out the same resistor out for the fuel pump relay, either that or fire on a spare set of webers an fuk the EFI
coldo66rc
09-01-09, 06:50 PM
o aye did you get the pictures up on here??
yo mate, looking at the holes for the mount on the block, id look at a 1.0 nova mount, and lower the leg part. and where do yua get the conversion plate and clutch? i have a swift lump....
greg1.4
09-01-09, 10:32 PM
coldo i have videos up..
look in the general chat section..use search, not got a link handy..lol
i will be back o kames within the next month or two, will let you know when i am going..
pm me your number if you like mate..
nova_saloon
10-01-09, 12:02 AM
pretty awesome, im impressed hope you get a new mount, make its thick and strong, alot of people seem concerned aswell
coldo66rc
10-01-09, 11:37 AM
slothsport1 (http://www.pngclub.com/forum/member.php?u=13037): i got plate off a guy in england that had made 5 of them up not sure if he stil has any left but i could give you his number. The clutch is made specially by helix cost around £80. I havn't drove mine yet cause of the ECU problem bt i've been told there fukin quick for 1.3 lol.
nova_saloon (http://www.pngclub.com/forum/member.php?u=16398): Think am going to lower the mounting point on the car then i can jst bend a 90 angle bit of metal without havin to weld on that extra extesion bit.
I'll get more pictures up of what its like now done alot since
that engine alloy blocked? that must be light compared to the iron 1.2!
coldo66rc
11-01-09, 10:11 AM
theres no weight to the engine compared to the 8v blocks
coldo66rc
01-10-09, 01:10 PM
Finally got round to gettin pics up
http://i307.photobucket.com/albums/nn301/colin-66rc/DSCF0127.jpg
http://i307.photobucket.com/albums/nn301/colin-66rc/DSCF0126.jpg
http://i307.photobucket.com/albums/nn301/colin-66rc/DSCF0125.jpg
liam944nova
01-10-09, 05:28 PM
these wee engines are cracking. there is suppose to be a bedford rascal with this engine in it lol
novaload1992
02-10-09, 10:09 PM
nice:)
liam944nova
16-12-09, 01:35 PM
any more progress?
vaughanmc
26-12-09, 08:58 PM
Any progress with the Sport yet ?
what would it go like compared to a 1.4 16v baby xe? or say a 1.3 sr with twin 40's? heard there quick little engines
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