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Thread: E16SE ignition system (timing, dizzy, bottom pulley)

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    Default E16SE ignition system (timing, dizzy, bottom pulley)

    right, so my situation is that my e16se refuses to stop pinking. im literally running out of things to try
    below is a list of what i have done to date :

    Re-set timing with strobe light
    Changed dizzy
    Changed ignition ecu
    Re-earthed the eaths and added a gearbox to chassis one
    had the CO set up using emissions tester
    changed spark plugs to NGK (have also tried vauxhall reccomended ones)

    It has been pinking since i put the engine in the car. i originally thought the reason for this was that the head had been skimmed drastically causing a high compression ratio. i replaced the head for a low mileage one which has not been skimmed.

    now you probably think at this stage that it is just a rattle and not actually pinking, i have been around many many garages who have road tested to diagnose it as pre detonation.

    It does it under load at between 1500-300 RPM

    now i have just discoverd that my engine is running a corsa alternator and a corsa bottom pulley as it has a relucter ring for a crank sensor which the e16se does not run.

    i have found 2 timing marks on the pulley the larger one is the one present when using a strobe and i can get it inline with the mark on the cambelt casing.....

    im not 100% on these timing marks as they have been drawn on so below are some pictures to help illustrate what i mean:



    small timing mark:



    large timing mark which matches with the cam case marker:




    this is the dizzy that came on it, however the ballance weights were knackerd which caused the car to jerk about.



    this is the dizzy i have put on today which has solved the jerkyness and runs fine:



    sorry about the essay but im becoming to belive it is simply witchcraft causing it to pink!

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    Have you had it on diagnostics? Have you changed the knock sensor?

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    have not changed the knock sensor, but am i right in thinking it would retard the ignition?
    had it on a modis it came up with ron signal weak. so i replaced the ron plug for another and now it is fine

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    If its knocking then it needs retarding doesn't it?

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    Ignore all painted timing marks and use the factory timing marks.

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    will the timing marks be correct even though its a corsa pulley ?

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    Take the corsa pulley off and use the one on the cam belt pulley and the sump

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    As above, use the permanent stamped cam pully and crank sprocket marks

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    agreed with the above messages, when you set the ignition timing did you set it to 10 degrees btdc. or advance the strobe by 10?

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    you take the throttle switch plug off & bridge the terminals with 2 split pins. this equates to 10deg, you must then retard it to cope with unleaded by about 4deg...

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