Yeah that's how I ride, just shirt and shorts and it really isn't the look for a road bike
The reason I'm looking at bikes is because I saw my mates kona at the weekend and offered to buy it! I know I should buy a full bike but part of the fun is building it imo. I'll keep looking and see what comes up, think a 17" frame is what I want, I'm not the tallest ha. Hopefully some experts will come on here and find me one Lol. Thanks for the advice though limp, no doubt il still make the wrong decisions and get something completely wrong for what I'll use it for.
Good luck with the Wigan result tonight by the way