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nova nick
03-09-08, 02:07 AM
can anyone tell me were the best place would be to look for launch and traction controll from. for my redtop nova.;)

thanks

burgo
03-09-08, 02:25 AM
id surgest looking at your right foot ;)

Stoo
03-09-08, 08:24 AM
id surgest looking at your right foot ;)

Took the words right out of my mouth
Learn to drive it properly

L14MNP
03-09-08, 12:34 PM
WOW that must be some beast!

Post spec please lol

FUSION X16XE
03-09-08, 12:38 PM
Demon tweaks sell it mate, but as said its easier and cheaper just to learn how to drive.

Paul
04-09-08, 01:41 PM
an option on aftermarket engine managament setups like Omex 600 etc

Breeny
04-09-08, 04:44 PM
Really helpful guys.. well done :roll:

Stuart
04-09-08, 05:24 PM
tbh they have a point.... OK I'd expect the likes of Lee, Dar, Spanishfly, Oly etc to maybe (just maybe) need it with their higher power engines. But on a std engine its next to pointless as you really should learn how to drive it rather than relying on crap electronics.

ok hes not mentioned the spec/why its needed but still

Dar
04-09-08, 05:51 PM
My car isn't high power!

Anyway look at aftermarket ECU's each company has an ECU that will do the job. They are pricey though.

Mike
04-09-08, 05:54 PM
Certain MS kits have Launch Control add on's ;)

Dar
04-09-08, 06:01 PM
Using Megasquirt is probably one of the cheaper options. Some info here http://madscientistmatt.blogspot.com/2005/11/introduction-to-megasquirt.html

Use this link for extra reading
http://www.google.co.uk/search?num=100&hl=en&sa=X&oi=spell&resnum=0&ct=result&cd=1&q=Megasquirt+traction+control&spell=1

tom_beverley
04-09-08, 06:02 PM
I have an Omex rev limiter which has an additional launch control function (press and hold a button) which will be probably the cheapest/most simple method of fitting what you are after.

Think they are still about on eBay, if not try Demon Tweeks, Rally Design and similar shops.

Mike
04-09-08, 06:03 PM
Demon Tweeks supply a Launch Control kit for £109+vat IIRC.

Look in there Motorsport Catalouge (the Tunning book is full of ****e parts :thumb: )

tom_beverley
04-09-08, 06:07 PM
One >>here<< (http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Omex-Single-Coil-Rev-Limiter-with-Launch-Control_W0QQitemZ260281237022QQcmdZViewItem?hash=i tem260281237022&_trkparms=72%3A12%7C39%3A1%7C66%3A2%7C65%3A12%7C24 0%3A1318&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14) on eBay for £85 + P&P.

burgo
05-09-08, 06:26 AM
all those launch control kits is hold the revs at a set point. why cant you hold the revs with your foot?

tom_beverley
05-09-08, 09:03 AM
He's not asking what they do but WHERE to get one from.

burgo
05-09-08, 10:56 AM
i know but purhaps he doesnt realise what they do and therefore doesnt realise how pointless they are

nova nick
07-09-08, 02:43 AM
My car isn't high power!

Anyway look at aftermarket ECU's each company has an ECU that will do the job. They are pricey though. thanks dar.

nova nick
07-09-08, 02:50 AM
evan holdin the revs with me foot as soon as i plant it then put it, into second it spins up even in the dry. i have goodyear f1 egal tyre's too. but it stil spins. the engine is pritty much standard, but i want to do sprit run's so less spin of the start the better.

i was lookin for adjustable launch contoll too.

mowgli
07-09-08, 07:30 AM
sounds like you need a lsd. an aftermarket traction control will also limit the spin, but a launch control needs altering to suit every start condition. all the racers do practice starts to work out their settings

mikey14sr
07-09-08, 10:53 AM
evan holdin the revs with me foot as soon as i plant it then put it, into second it spins up even in the dry. i have goodyear f1 egal tyre's too. but it stil spins. the engine is pritty much standard, but i want to do sprit run's so less spin of the start the better.

i was lookin for adjustable launch contoll too.

Have you had all the suspension geometry checked out? As that can help if there's a lack of mechanical grip.

Novaboi_1991
07-09-08, 11:47 AM
Whats wrong with the spin? lol wish mine did that lol

C14se
07-09-08, 12:46 PM
i was thinking about fiting one of them OMEX SINGLE COIL REV LIMITER WITH LAUNCH CONTROL i just want to no how it all works

burgo
07-09-08, 01:50 PM
Whats wrong with the spin? lol wish mine did that lolCHAV

Mazz
07-09-08, 02:21 PM
Assuming your the same person i've seen driving around Cannock in a bluey coloured XE Nova, then you need to control your right foot as everytime i've seen you, you just hammer it everywhere..

nova nick
07-09-08, 03:03 PM
[quote=Mazz]Assuming your the same person i've seen driving around Cannock in a bluey coloured XE Nova, then you need to control your right foot as everytime i've seen you, you just hammer it everywhere..[/quote

spy:)
the car wasn't built to be driven slow, but i will bear it in mind thanks. if i nailed it all the time there wouldn't be much left of the engine anyway. i dosn't get used that much so wen it is use it has a bit of stick.;) ive only snaped 1 c.v joint in 12months so i dont rag it that bad

before you say it to im not a 17yrs old.lol

nova nick
07-09-08, 03:07 PM
sounds like you need a lsd. an aftermarket traction control will also limit the spin, but a launch control needs altering to suit every start condition. all the racers do practice starts to work out their settings
would ajustable launch help with altering for start coditions.

ive bin lookin into the l.s.d's to, that another thing i could do with to stop a bit of the torque steer.

thanks for your help im greatfull.

nova nick
07-09-08, 03:10 PM
CHAV im with you on that m8.:thumb:

Mike
07-09-08, 03:18 PM
the car wasn't built to be driven slow

You mean your incapable of driving slow :p

nova nick
07-09-08, 09:27 PM
thanks for the theory test.:wtf:

1.6 8v turbo nova
08-09-08, 03:47 AM
im with you on that m8.:thumb:
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lollollollollol

evan
with me foot
so i dont rag it that bad
i dosn't get used that much so wen it is use it has a bit of stick

Haha :D quality :tard:.

Dod
08-09-08, 10:27 AM
As said, if your car is spinning through the gears a LSD would help you no end. Launch control will just kill the power until it grips again, major speed losses.

LSD will bring both wheels into play under accelerationg and double your current grip but also, as previously mentioned, Suspension settings could help you no end. Making sure as mucbh trye is in contact with the ground as possible.

If you can, get a run in a Vtec Honda of some sort. These all have (most anyway) LSD standard and accelerate like nothing else.

Stoo
08-09-08, 10:29 AM
Judging from your replies, launch control isnt needed

You just need to curb your enthusiasm

nova nick
08-09-08, 12:11 PM
thanks for the help dod & stoo im goin to look into the lsd side of things first, thanks again:thumb:

nova nick
08-09-08, 12:16 PM
As said, if your car is spinning through the gears a LSD would help you no end. Launch control will just kill the power until it grips again, major speed losses.

LSD will bring both wheels into play under accelerationg and double your current grip but also, as previously mentioned, Suspension settings could help you no end. Making sure as mucbh trye is in contact with the ground as possible.

If you can, get a run in a Vtec Honda of some sort. These all have (most anyway) LSD standard and accelerate like nothing else.

whot is the best way to set the camber, as i only have about 3/4 of the tyre gripin maybe a bit more but i get a bit of inner edge tyre wear?


thanks.

Stoo
08-09-08, 12:18 PM
get some camber bolts for the front
or elongate the strut holes

but, get it set up properly

Dod
08-09-08, 12:20 PM
Adjustable top mounts would help. It seems your wheels are angles in at the top. As Stoo siad, camber bolts (iirc around £) shouls dort the majority of it. Speak to the track lads in here and ask their opinion, or start a new thread in the Mechanical Section.

Mazz
08-09-08, 12:33 PM
btw, you should come and say hello at one of our meets, not just drive in the car park and wheel spin out! :p

FUSION X16XE
08-09-08, 01:16 PM
get some camber bolts for the front
or elongate the strut holes

but, get it set up properly

My coilovers have the elongated holes, but im un-sure of how so set it up properly? Do a garage use a laser machine? Tbh i dont want to pay to get it done if i can do it my self, Atm i have slight neg camber. :thumb:

Stoo
08-09-08, 01:18 PM
you need to have it set up on a laser alignment rig

isnt too easy to do yourself tbh

FUSION X16XE
08-09-08, 01:36 PM
Thought as much, cheers mate.

Dod
08-09-08, 01:37 PM
Get your own thread Fusion you Bum!! lol

FUSION X16XE
08-09-08, 01:48 PM
Whats that? Dod wants a thread about my bum? Think you have the wrong forum again mate lol

Dod
08-09-08, 01:50 PM
You FAIL at reading. lol

Stoo
08-09-08, 01:50 PM
Dod wants a snowplough???

Dod
08-09-08, 01:52 PM
LMAO!!!

I actually got one and an 86 Corsa A to go with it.

Stuart
08-09-08, 02:02 PM
you can do it very inaccurately for £15 with one of those sealey magnetic camber gauges. OR properly for £100 with a camber gauge from the likes of Merlin/DT/Rally design. OR simply pop down to your local laser place, get the gear on there and adjust the camber till its right. Give them £30 and FRO :D

FUSION X16XE
08-09-08, 02:16 PM
Think ill go to the garage.

Sorry to whoeva started this thread lol

nova nick
08-09-08, 05:25 PM
btw, you should come and say hello at one of our meets, not just drive in the car park and wheel spin out! :p


sorry for being ignarant, i will stop next time, i didn't realise it was a meet there was only a few car's there.:D its at the old winkin frog pub.;) 2 novaslol

nova nick
08-09-08, 05:29 PM
bin lookin at chris ashly motor sport sorted now!!!.

Mike
08-09-08, 06:13 PM
sorry for being ignarant, i will stop next time, i didn't realise it was a meet there was only a few car's there.:D its at the old winkin frog pub.;) 2 novaslol

Aye, at the w@nking toad ;)

C14se
08-09-08, 08:18 PM
Aye, at the w@nking toad ;)

lol nice name for a pub

Stuart
08-09-08, 09:34 PM
bin the text typing nova nick..

Dinoman
29-09-09, 03:55 PM
you need to have it set up on a laser alignment rig

isnt too easy to do yourself tbh

Hi it is simple to do it your self all you need is a level floor to sit your wheels on, can use bits of wood to get floor level, then with a spirit level standing vertically on the floor and at wheel center measure with a tape measure difference between the top of the wheel and bottom of wheel ( not Tyre) to spirit level, so if you are running normal Neg Camber at present approx 3mm or 1/8th inch so increase it to about 5 to 6mm or 1/4 inch, most important is to have both sides the same, I hope that helps, Regards DM

Paul
29-09-09, 04:21 PM
This post is over a year old...

Dinoman
29-09-09, 04:26 PM
This post is over a year old...

No problem, people can still read it OK, Regards DM